Originally posted by CogitoIf you want to argue current Fc Seid only which usually is mentioned in the op considering the mess of his history that's fine because he was in a weakened human's body and has no feats as to correctly asses him good or bad.
Ah, the timeless "I'll only acknowledge low showings that aren't valid anyways because they were all retconned to being avatars" argument. Classic 😉
I gave actual showings of far less than Zeus not only beating him but nearly killing him, killing him, embarrassing him, or beating him into submission. That's why I usually win debates I base my winners off of past comics not on who I like more.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you want to argue current Fc Seid only which usually is mentioned in the op considering the mess of his history that's fine because he was in a weakened human's body and has no feats as to correctly asses him good or bad.
If you want to make this Zeus vs. a Darkseid avater, then I'm in agreement. Zeus would win. The true Darkseid is another matter entirely.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I gave actual showings of far less than Zeus not only beating him but nearly killing him, killing him, embarrassing him, or beating him into submission. That's why I usually win debates I base my winners off of past comics not on who I like more.
You "win" arguments because everyone else gives up trying to convince you because you're so damn stubborn.
Originally posted by CogitoShow me the true Darkseid in combat.
If you want to make this Zeus vs. a Darkseid avater, then I'm in agreement. Zeus would win. The true Darkseid is another matter entirely.You "win" arguments because everyone else gives up trying to convince you because you're so damn stubborn.
Originally posted by CogitoSo why didn't he beat Superman or who did this allow him to beat in combat ? LOL.
I dunno, nearly collapsed reality by being in it./shrug
Originally posted by quanchi112
Show me the true Darkseid in combat.
whistling1
Until he gets retconned, true Darkseid is a multiversal entity capable of collapsing reality with is mere presence, who inspires fear in a planet consisting of thousands of gods, who fought said planet of thousands of gods and won, etc.
I don't need to show combat feats. Most abstracts have no combat feats. Do you need to see them before you rank them above someone with combat feats (zomg Infinity vs. Spiderman, Spiderman wins!).
We do know some of his accomplishments, and those are far above Zeus.
Originally posted by Cogito
whistling1Until he gets retconned, true Darkseid is a multiversal entity capable of collapsing reality with is mere presence, who inspires fear in a planet consisting of thousands of gods, who fought said planet of thousands of gods and won, etc.
I don't need to show combat feats. Most abstracts have no combat feats. Do you need to see them before you rank them above someone with combat feats (zomg Infinity vs. Spiderman, Spiderman wins!).
We do know some of his accomplishments, and those are far above Zeus.
It doesn't work like that. What has true Darkseid brought to the table that puts him above Zeus?