Abstracts Vs Skyfathers

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, it's true, Thor was listed at 90 tons along with Juggernaut for a while. Which was weird because Hercules, Hulk and Beta Ray Bill where all in the incalculable range.

In terms of power levels, handbooks are useless. I'd also like to note the era in which the 60 tons figure was introduced for Odin, was the very same which claimed that Odin did not have telepathy, could not teleport or something along with a whole other bunch of bullshit that directly contradicted his showings.

I'd wager that a bunch of Asgardian hating cosmic fanboys were responsible for that bullshit. But seriously, shit was straight up made up at points.

For example, can anyone provide me with any reason why Odin would have such a low base level strength?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Same way we know hulk has no business in the same discussion as sky fathers.

Even low heralds can planet bust.

Why not? Can you show me a low or even High Herald destroying a planet without even touching it?

Hulk is clearly operating at those levels. Him curbing high tier beings with ease is proof of this.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Exactly. Red She-Hulk who was said to be Hulk's exact equal was also responsible for what happened. It's a shared feat, not Hulk's alone.

It doesnt matter if its a shared ft or not... they both destroyed her realm and Hulk was standing over a cliff after this happened.

As for your evidence of Wendigo and Hulk... well.

Even Hulk acknowledge Wendigo as being the strongest out of all his enemies.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-10.jpg

Wendigo being "almost as equally matched as a pissed Hulk".

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-18.jpg

Mauvis hacking Wendigo body and obtaining his powers over power Sasquash who is clearly high class 100. Hell, he lifted the hellicarrier.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Wolverine172-05.jpg

If you want to see fights, I can easily show you Wendigo overpowering Hulk and hitting him with enough force to crush mountains.

Just chiming in:

Paul (the Wendigo in those first two scans) wasn't Class 100, he was only Class 75.

Mauvis was legitimately 100-100+ though.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Just chiming in:

Paul (the Wendigo in those first two scans) wasn't Class 100, he was only Class 75.

Mauvis was legitimately 100-100+ though.

You are using "low showing" Wendigo. On average, he is a clear cut high 100 tonner. He has been too even with Hulk to not be one. He also have other showing of over powering Sasquash.

Originally posted by carver9
You are using "low showing" Wendigo. On average, he is a clear cut high 100 tonner. He has been too even with Hulk to not be one. He also have other showing of over powering Sasquash.

Well, you're the one who used the weakest named Wendigo to try and prove your point for the Class 90-100+ Wendigoes.

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Well, you're the one who used the weakest named Wendigo to try and prove your point for the Class 90-100+ Wendigoes.

What weaker version did I use? There is nothing to suggest that he is weaker than his average self. He might have bad performances against other beings (who doesnt) but that does not mean that he is class 10. Especially when you have showings of different Wendigo's over power high class 100's.

Originally posted by carver9
What weaker version did I use? There is nothing to suggest that he is weaker than his average self. He might have bad performances against other beings (who doesnt) but that does not mean that he is class 10. Especially when you have showings of different Wendigo's over power high class 100's.

Paul Cartier is the weakest of the named Wendigoes. He was only Class 75.

Georges Baptiste was class 90-100.

Mauvis was 100+.

The namless Wendigoes tend to do pretty poor and I'd personally rank as being below Class 100 so I don't even generally consider them when people discuss Wendigoes unless someone just talks about Wendigoes in general.

Originally posted by carver9
Because trans tier beings couldn't make him budge or feel pain. Because trans tier beings turned to dust just being around his presence. He doesn't need to bust anything to be a skyfather, those feats alone puts him at skyfather. Let's not forget that he thunderclapped so hard that he destroyed a dimensional barrier that held back an entire race called the Mindless One. A race of beings that gave Dormammu and Classic Strange fits.

Those beings aren't trans tier in strength or durability, not even close. Plus you are forgetting that nothing would have happened without she red hulk. Hulk has no power to do what he did alone.

Unquantifiable feats can't be used. Otherwise I can pull out other heralds infinite feats as well.

So all I saw was Hulk needed help to destroy a planet. Great energy was released from him that wouldn't have been released if it wasn't for Red she hulk.

Some low class 100 beings failed to budge Hulk. This is not impressive. Hulk failed to budge Surfer before. DD failed to budge Superman. etc.

Don't get me wrong. Hulk became much stronger than normal. But still this feat isn't greater than any of the other top heralds top feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Those beings aren't trans tier in strength or durability, not even close. Plus you are forgetting that nothing would have happened without she red hulk. Hulk has no power to do what he did alone.

Unquantifiable feats can't be used. Otherwise I can pull out other heralds infinite feats as well.

So all I saw was Hulk needed help to destroy a planet. Great energy was released from him that wouldn't have been released if it wasn't for Red she hulk.

Some low class 100 beings failed to budge Hulk. This is not impressive. Hulk failed to budge Surfer before. DD failed to budge Superman. etc.

Don't get me wrong. Hulk became much stronger than normal. But still this feat isn't greater than any of the other top heralds top feats.

Put me on ignore.

Originally posted by CosmicComet

Originally posted by CosmicComet

😆 Epic.

Big step up from Family Man Hulk. I don't like him, but I admit I'm proud of him.

Family Man Hulk is still the most responsible.

He taught Skaar to count to 100 trillion [tons].

Originally posted by CosmicComet

It is hilarious though! 😆

team 1, geez....

Originally posted by CosmicComet

hysterical

Why does Hulk always pop up in unrelated threads?
He has enough threads already. ugh3