Abstracts Vs Skyfathers

Started by TheTyrant11 pages
Originally posted by zopzop
No, not in the same way. Tyrant gets his power from the biosphere of EVERY PLANET IN THE UNIVERSE. The very same biosphere the gods were born from. Galactus uses his machines to convert a suitable planet into energy for him to devour. He metabolizes that energy into the Power Cosmic. Tyrant proved that he can absorb even metabolized BSE when he fought Galactus.

Originally posted by zopzop
Arise from your grave...................

[b]Tyrant's Official Handbook Info :

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"Galactus granted him access to the same biospheric energies that empowered him, perhaps to keep his creation in check".

Originally posted by TheTyrant
"Galactus granted him access to the [b]same biospheric energies that empowered him, perhaps to keep his creation in check". [/B]

Did you read the "not in the same way" part? Tyrant is powered by the biosphere of every planet in the universe.

Galactus finds suitable worlds and devours them. Converting that energy into the Power Cosmic.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
"Btw, I said that they would beat them in a fight, not tank their best blows."

Superboy Prime has a shit ton of powers whereas Hulk only has a few. Big difference.

And again, where is the galaxy thing coming from? It was only a planet.

Well, Hulk tanked their best blows without even flinching. Thor and Surfer would have to fight these two without getting hit at all because it would hurt like hell. Imagine someone that is a 1000 Times as strong as Supes, Thor, or Savage Hulk hitting them. Hell, Thor had fits with Kurse and it took both Bill and Thor to defeat him and he was only 5 times stronger. Surfer got koed by a Warrior madness Thor who was only 10 times stronger than his average self. Wendigo punching them at those insane levels should take limbs off and with them fighting in character, "they will get hit".

Umar stated that Hulk destroyed her realm...that dimension is her realm so that's where I got it from.

Originally posted by carver9
Well, Hulk tanked their best blows without even flinching. Thor and Surfer would have to fight these two without getting hit at all because it would hurt like hell. Imagine someone that is a 1000 Times as strong as Supes, Thor, or Savage Hulk hitting them. Hell, Thor had fits with Kurse and it took both Bill and Thor to defeat him and he was only 5 times stronger. Surfer got koed by a Warrior madness Thor who was only 10 times stronger than his average self. Wendigo punching them at those insane levels should take limbs off and with them fighting in character, "they will get hit".

Umar stated that Hulk destroyed her realm...that dimension is her realm so that's where I got it from.

Or she meant her Realm on the Planet? Since the Dimension was stil there only the Planet was busted.

^^^Yah, I think the Dimension busting myth has been perpetrated myself. All that was shown that was destroyed was the planet. Nothing else. Umar may have meant the planet was her realm. I like seeing things done, not hyperbole.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I like seeing things done, not hyperbole.

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But did it say "dimension" on panel or planet?

Originally posted by bbrem123
funny how people wont accept hulk being this strong....makes me laugh

I agree 100%

Originally posted by zopzop
Did you read the "not in the same way" part? Tyrant is powered by the biosphere of every planet in the universe.

Galactus finds suitable worlds and devours them. Converting that energy into the Power Cosmic.

Could you post evidence of what you're saying? Because I recall Tyrant needing to devour planets as well as Galactus.

Originally posted by carver9
Well, Hulk tanked their best blows without even flinching. Thor and Surfer would have to fight these two without getting hit at all because it would hurt like hell. Imagine someone that is a 1000 Times as strong as Supes, Thor, or Savage Hulk hitting them. Hell, Thor had fits with Kurse and it took both Bill and Thor to defeat him and he was only 5 times stronger. Surfer got koed by a Warrior madness Thor who was only 10 times stronger than his average self. Wendigo punching them at those insane levels should take limbs off and with them fighting in character, "they will get hit".

Umar stated that Hulk destroyed her realm...that dimension is her realm so that's where I got it from.

You're missing the point. I'm not saying Thor/Silver Surfer > Hulk or vice-versa, I'm saying that Thor or Silver Surfer could've at least defeated two of the guys Hulk beat. Also, neither Wendigo nor Bi-Beast are class 100 at their base level, so they're not even comparable to Kurse in terms of strength (or anything really).

Umar said no such thing. Even that Roman guy said something like "You've locked away the Hulk forever in the Dark Dimension". Hulk destroyed a planet with the help of his equal, Red She-Hulk. That's all.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree 100%
Again, Show Hulk beating Zeus, or Galactus, or Odin or another skyfather level being and I'll start considering him at that level. Until then, he's not. Plain and simple.

i think he would beat thanos

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Or she meant her Realm on the Planet? Since the Dimension was stil there only the Planet was busted.

Just like the universe was still the when Monarch busted it but its clear he ripped through it. The dimension was reforming and Hulk was standing on the cliff watching it reform. She could have easily said he destroyed her planet...she said he destroyed her realm.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i think he would beat thanos

Thanos would easily kill a planet full of Worldbreaker Hulks.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Thanos would easily kill a planet full of Worldbreaker Hulks.
dont be insane. Hulk would own thanos in a physical confrentation

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Again, Show Hulk beating Zeus, or Galactus, or Odin or another skyfather level being and I'll start considering him at that level. Until then, he's not. Plain and simple.

Again, him tanking trans/skyfather level hits without flinching puts him in the skyfather tier. Him burning them to the bone with just being around his presence is enough.

Show Zeus taking out skufathers or stop responding to my post.

I never said Hulk could beat Galactus and I said he is low to mid skyfather which means Zeus and Odin would beat him. I don't think trans level beings could.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Could you post evidence of what you're saying? Because I recall Tyrant needing to devour planets as well as Galactus.

I did already when I replied to Colossus Big-C 😄
Check the b) section scans.

Originally posted by zopzop
Hilarious, people will ride that "Kubik universe warping" feat to the ground, while lowballing Tyrant.

Based on his powerset and energy sources I think he has a good chance against every Tier , with Tiers 5 and 7 being the major headaches and that's only because of the Trans Tier beings.

Regarding the Skyfathers and Elder Gods, Tyrant gets his power from the biosphere of every planet in the universe (let's just ignore his other source of power, his energy spheres for now). The Gods (both Skyfathers and Elders) were created by the Demiurge in the biosphere of the planet Earth. Tyrant will literally be empowered by their assaults. Even if the biospheric energy was metabolized into something else, Tyrant can still absorb it. As he showed vs Galactus when he stated that the Power Cosmic was nothing more than synthesized biospheric energy.

Proof :

a) The Gods were formed from the Biosphere and Demiurge is a part of it -

b) Tyrant (even "DP" Tyrant) draws power from the biosphere of every planet in the universe (stated by both Galactus and Tyrant)-

c) Even biospheric energy that has been synthesized into other forms of power (like the Power Cosmic) can be absorbed by him -
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
dont be insane. Hulk would own thanos in a physical confrentation

He wouldn't be able to even get past Thanos' shields bro. Thanos would beat Hulk to a pulp even physically.

Originally posted by carver9
Zeus and Odin would beat him.
Finally agree on something.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Could you post evidence of what you're saying? Because I recall Tyrant needing to devour planets as well as Galactus.

You're missing the point. I'm not saying Thor/Silver Surfer > Hulk or vice-versa, I'm saying that Thor or Silver Surfer could've at least defeated two of the guys Hulk beat. Also, neither Wendigo nor Bi-Beast are class 100 at their base level, so they're not even comparable to Kurse in terms of strength (or anything really).

Umar said no such thing. Even that Roman guy said something like "You've locked away the Hulk forever in the Dark Dimension". Hulk destroyed a planet with the help of his equal, Red She-Hulk. That's all.

Did you just say that Wendigo isn't high class 100? It has been stated on panel that his strength match Hulk.

So Umar didn't state that Hulk destroyed her realm? I'm about to make you look stupid.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
He wouldn't be able to even get past Thanos' shields bro. Thanos would beat Hulk to a pulp even physically.

Even though I'm glad the Hulk is being given more props, I agree with you 100%. Lest we forget Pre Death AMP Thanos and Drax busted a planet while fighting and Drax, Drax was KOed but Thanos was just fine. Later Drax tore a "small" star apart with his bare hands in a fit of rage.

^^^Thanos has also been through Black Holes relatively unscathed. He survived a Beyonder/Maker blast that she/it thought should have killed him, etc, etc. Thanos would not lose to Hulk.