Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your a f*g tbh.Savage Hulk's strength is entirely depended on the writer imho due to his dynamic strength so it's hard to peg a definite average but I'd say his usually in the Thor/Superman weight class or close to it. Whenever he faces an elite strong man like Gladiator, Thor or Juggernaut, he's almost always at least there equal in strength either at the beginning of the fight or shortly into it. With enough motivation, he can surpass them.
That depends on what you mean by low end. If you take a Hulk that's going toe to toe with Iron Clad and compare him to Superman/Thor, he's going to come off looking worse. But, if you take that very same Hulk and immediately teleport him into a battle with either of the two, he'll at least match them.
when he collided with ironclad at the crossroads, that was a MASSIVE display of power.
in general, savage hulk is about as strong as he needs to be, depending on who he's fighting. there really is no 'low end' hulk imo. by the same token, i think it is a bit of a myth regarding savage hulk's ever increasing strength. he's fought thor for hours, had extended battles against herc and namor, wendigo, et al., but we never really see him get 'stronger'. the fights remain draws for the most part, even when they are said to be lasting for long periods of time. rarely does it happen that hulk gets noticeably stronger and actually wins a prolonged battle. current hulk is something altogether different....
Originally posted by leonidas
when he collided with ironclad at the crossroads, that was a MASSIVE display of power.in general, savage hulk is about as strong as he needs to be, depending on who he's fighting. there really is no 'low end' hulk imo. by the same token, i think it is a bit of a myth regarding savage hulk's ever increasing strength. he's fought thor for hours, had extended battles against herc and namor, wendigo, et al., but we never really see him get 'stronger'. the fights remain draws for the most part, even when they are said to be lasting for long periods of time. rarely does it happen that hulk gets noticeably stronger and actually wins a prolonged battle. current hulk is something altogether different....
The only person who he has had battles with that have lasted an hour long and more is Thor as far as I can tell. And tbh, I can't really hold it against him. Thor has had an issue long battle with Drax who was tapping into the Infinity Gem of Power, Destroyer Armor etc.
Personally, I think that Hulk needed an extra level of motivation to jump past the elite strong men tier. At least back in the day. If Hercules/Namor harmed Betty, I'm sure the fight wouldn't have ended well for them.
yeah, maybe had they harmed betty things would be different, just that his getting stronger as he gets madder, doesn't really hold up all that often. he may get decked at the start of a fight then come back and fight longer, but savage hulk really never seems to surpass top tiers in terms of combat strength feats. he has other feats, but he very rarely beats the top guys. at least back in the day....
Originally posted by Naija boyLove the irony here. You call me pathetic, but in the same breath launch a [sad] attempt at badgering? Hysterical.
heh.Pretty pathetic. Talk out of your ass and then post a smiley face and claim im getting defensive. Is that suppose to make up for the fabrications in your post? Cuz when you make false claims im supposed to not defend myself against them? Brilliant Galan, just brilliant.. Seriously GTFO and go keep using that nonsense on people foolish enough to fall for it.
Try to keep the childish antics to yourself, kay? 🙂
Originally posted by Naija boyWhat are you talking about? Did you read a thing I said? If so, then you might note I never said that was Pak's intent- I said that's what it seemed akin to.
lol at trying your best to rationalize away what occurred. Seriously just lulz at the comparisons. Its highly unlikely that Greg Pak intended for the scene to resemble the physics of a particle accelerator in which the actual force/energy created by the hulk and she hulks collision was exponentially greater than the actual force/energy the both of them posessed and thus used in the collision. That would you know....defeat the entire purpose of his recent inflation of hulks strength levels and be pretty inconsistent with the real life physics of such a situation anyways.. That is some heavy duty reaching to say the least.
Obviously the two of them colliding is what released enough energy to destroy the planet- and since neither of them have come close to accomplishing the same level of feat before that instance, my previous post is perfectly logical. The two of them collide and, w/o physically touching the planet, release a power FAR greater than either of them could (or ever have, at least) have amassed separately. To me, this implies that a power greater than the sum of the parts was generated. If you really call that "reaching" on my end, then you are evidently ignoring EXACTLY what was shown in the comic, because that's all I'm going by.
Originally posted by Naija boyYou're twisting things a bit. I would agree that Hulk (and subsequently Betty) are above everyone on the list- Superman included. But are they several tiers above someone like Supes (as you originally suggested) based on that one feat? Not IMO. As I said: shared feats are enormously hard to gauge.
That feat in addition to his portrayal as far above even his WWH version, certainly does put him as considerably above supermans regular portrayal strength wise unless u adopt the extreme view that superman is far above even the likes of WWH strengthwise, which would expose where the true overestimation lies in this scenario. And it certainly wouldnt be with me 👇
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusGray Hulk fought Pineapple Thing for over an hour. A dying Mindless Hulk (who didn't get stronger) fought Doc Sampson for over six hours. Professor Hulk fought Hel for days.
The only person who he has had battles with that have lasted an hour long and more is Thor as far as I can tell.
WWH also went non-stop against Hulkbuster Extremis Iron Man --> Mighty Avengers --> Fantastic Four --> Champions --> General Ross. And I guess, WWH "lasted" against Umar for over three hours.
Originally posted by Galan007Savage Hulk destroyed a planetoid twice the size of earth with a single punch(which maybe more impressive than that recent feat), this is wbh here.... he is far more powerful
Obviously the two of them colliding is what released enough energy to destroy the planet- and since neither of them have come close to accomplishing the same level of feat before that instance, my previous post is perfectly logical. The two of them collide and, w/o physically touching the planet, release a power FAR greater than either of them could (or ever have, at le ast) have amassed separately. To me, this implies that a power greater than the sum of the parts was generated. If you really call that "reachi ng" on my end, then you are evidently ignoring EXACTLY what was shown in the comic, because that's all I'm going by.
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no to mention savage hulk lit up an entire dimension with a thunder clap long before this
i wish people would do there homework on hulk before making absurdly false statements
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Savage Hulk destroyed a planetoid twice the size of earth with a single punch(which maybe more impressive than that recent feat), this is wbh here.... he is far more powerfulno to mention savage hulk lit up an entire dimension with a thunder clap long before this
i wish people would do there homework on hulk before making absurdly false statements
You should follow your own advice methinks.
Re: Order these guys in physical strength
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Hercules
Savage Hulk
Superman
Doomaday
Current Hulk
1- Current Hulk
2- Savage Hulk / Superman / Hercules / Doomsday
3- Wonderman
4- Colossus
5- Wendigo / Namor
Now, I think that Namor, even if he's weaker, would own Colossus and maybe Wonderman too.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gray Hulk fought Pineapple Thing for over an hour. A dying Mindless Hulk (who didn't get stronger) fought Doc Sampson for over six hours. Professor Hulk fought Hel for days.WWH also went non-stop against Hulkbuster Extremis Iron Man --> Mighty Avengers --> Fantastic Four --> Champions --> General Ross. And I guess, WWH "lasted" against Umar for over three hours.
I was referring to opponents who have gone toe to toe with an enraged Savage Hulk for large periods of time.
If you want to get really specific, Thor/Merged Hulk fought for over an hour etc.