but how many raindrops hit your body per second compared to how many blaster bolts anyone has ever had to block? Ki-Adi couldn't even block 3. We are talking about literally hundreds of thousands of raindrops. (he blocked them all until the storm ended. stand in a deluge sometime, and think about blocking it all with something 2 or 3 inches wide.
You said greatest feat of blocking in the mythos.
Obi-Wan was holding off literally dozens of droids who were all firing at him simultaneously, while high on gas. So if you have literally multiple dozens of droids firing at the same time, you're looking at something akin to hundreds of shots at a time, and that's not counting the fact that blaster bolts move at hundreds of times the speed of a rain drop.
but not all of those bolts were going to be hitting kenobi. (and which feat of kenobi's, specifically, are you talking about?)
gravity guarantees that all of the drops over his' body's volume will hit him if he doesn't block them.
how fast do you find a blaster-bolt to travel, for comparison? I would venture to say that to the naked eye, rain drops move as quickly as blaster bolts. do you have any numbers to offset that observation?
Originally posted by truejedi
[B]but not all of those bolts were going to be hitting kenobi.
How do you know this? He was standing still, in one spot, while they were all firing at him. Furthermore, not all rain drops were going for Bane either, obviously.
(and which feat of kenobi's, specifically, are you talking about?)/quote]What? The fastest rain drops can fall is 10 miles per hour. Do you think blaster bolts move slower than 20 miles an hour?Early chapters of LoE.
[quote]how fast do you find a blaster-bolt to travel, for comparison? I would venture to say that to the naked eye, rain drops move as quickly as blaster bolts. do you have any numbers to offset that observation?
i'm really not sure how fast a blaster bolt moves. but still. let's table this until the next time you stand in a deluge, and then post and just give me your honest opinion. I had that moment last week. it was pouring, and i thought about Bane blocking EVERY drop. I went inside, after the quick run from my car, and I was impressed.
Anything for you babe.
"Feeling a blast of cold wind blow in, he crouched low and opened himself up to the Force, letting it flow through him. Drawing on it to extend his awareness out to encompass each individual bead of rain as it fell from the sky, he resolved not to let a single drop touch his exposed flesh.
He could sense the power of the dark side building inside him. It began, as it always did, with a faint spark, a tiny flicker of light and heat. Muscles tense and coiled in anticipation, he fed the spark, fueling it with his own passion, letting his anger and fury transform the flame into an inferno waiting to be unleashed.
As the first fat drops splattered onto the patio stones around him, Bane exploded into action. Abandoning the overpowering style of Djem So, he shifted to the quicker sequences of Soresu, his lightsaber tracing tight circles above his head in a series of movements designed to intercept enemy blaster bolts.
The wind rose to a howling gale, and the scattered drops quickly became a downpour. His body and mind united as one, he channeled the infinite power of the Force against the driving rain. Tiny clouds of hissing steam formed as his blade picked off the descending drops while Bane twisted, twirled, and contorted his body to evade those few that managed to slip through his defenses.
For the next ten minutes he battled the pelting storm, reveling in the power of the dark side. And then, as suddenly as it had begun, the tempest was gone, the dark cloud scurrying away on the breeze. Breathing hard, Bane extinguished his lightsaber. His skin was sheened in sweat, but not a single drop of rain had touched his bare flesh."
Blax, I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make. That's obviously my fault, because I am an idiot.
Think about it this way:
Bane is a big guy. He covers probably six square feet when viewed from above, including the area above his arms when they are outstretched. That means that he needs to clear six square feet of water droplets during the deluge, assuming that they are descending straight down.
There is water refilling this area constantly, as new raindrops appear. It doesn't matter so much how fast each individual drop is moving as how frequently the area's water supply is replenished by water droplets. His lightsaber essentially has to multiply its area at all times by an order of magnitude (i.e. factor of ten) to protect him. His lightsaber is moving fast enough to be in ten places at once, at a conservative estimate.
(There is evidence that the number is much, much greater: "howling gale," "driving rain."😉
Originally posted by truejedi
then again, Bane didn't figure it out. Bane once stood in a driving rainstorm and kept a single drop of rain from hitting him with his lightsaber. That is the single most impressive saber feat in the mythos, unless you have one that tops it. Zannah was inferior to bane with a saber, but not overwhelmingly so.
I find this rather suspect. Zannah realized almost instantly she had to employ Sith sorcery for the same of survival. Bane nearly trampled her underfoot in their early saber engagement and only her exceptional skill at Soresu allowed her to survive.
Furthermore, as pointed out, rain doesn't really move THAT fast. Bane was hitting away drops before hitting him. I consider feats of cutting down multiple soldiers before they can react (Lord Kopecz) or deflecting an utter storm of blaster Bolts (Yoda) or blocking sixteen strikes per second (Obi-wan Kenobi) to be rather on the level or more impressive.
Furthermore, Bane most certainly figured it out. In their duel, Bane realized almost instantly he had to kill Zannah during her sorcery while she was concentrating.
I realize there's an argument to be made that Maul doesn't possess Bane's intellect, but he's an intelligent, analytical and cunning fighter taught to analyze his enemies and any possible weakness. If Zannah has to divert full attention, it leaves her open to Maul to maneuver around her sorcery with exceptional reflex and speed, or hit her with his own force attack while she can't focus on a defensive barrier.
As stated before, Zannah's fear attacks will be close to useless with Maul's mental fortitude.
Furthermore, as pointed out, rain doesn't really move THAT fast.
Originally posted by Zampanó
Blax, I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make. That's obviously my fault, because I am an idiot.Think about it this way:
Bane is a big guy. He covers probably six square feet when viewed from above, including the area above his arms when they are outstretched. That means that he needs to clear six square feet of water droplets during the deluge, assuming that they are descending straight down.
There is water refilling this area constantly, as new raindrops appear. It doesn't matter so much how fast each individual drop is moving as how frequently the area's water supply is replenished by water droplets. His lightsaber essentially has to multiply its area at all times by an order of magnitude (i.e. factor of ten) to protect him. His lightsaber is moving fast enough to be in ten places at once, at a conservative estimate.
(There is evidence that the number is much, much greater: "howling gale," "driving rain."😉