Current Hulk vs Superman Prime

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's fine if you can't see the difference between blowing up a planet directly with blows or energy discharges, and blowing it up accidentally with an impact not even directed at a planet. Not surprised.

Ion Sodam Yat held his own for a good long while against Superman Prime (unamped) and really started faltering only when the lead poisoning kicked in. I see current Worldbreaker Hulk as physically over Ion Sodam Yat.

And I'm discounting all-out Worldbreaker Hulk from that equation.

I feel pretty much safe at saying that H1 doesn't know who Ion is and he doesn't k ow what fight you are talking about.

1.Hulk
2.Prime

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's fine if you can't see the difference between blowing up a planet directly with blows or energy discharges, and blowing it up accidentally with an impact not even directed at a planet. Not surprised.

Ion Sodam Yat held his own for a good long while against Superman Prime (unamped) and really started faltering only when the lead poisoning kicked in. I see current Worldbreaker Hulk as physically over Ion Sodam Yat.

And I'm discounting all-out Worldbreaker Hulk from that equation.

It was more of an energy projection feat and not a strength one. Plus it was shared. Prime has survived a universal explosion before. A planetary one should tickle him. WTH does not being directed at the planet have to do with this? If energy comes forth from two beings that happen to destroy a planet then whether it was on purpose is irrelevant.
Hulk and Red shulk has energy projection feat under their belt.

^ Like I said, I'm not surprised you don't see the difference.

Prime getting KTFO by a universal explosion and surviving it alongside a tiny sprouting plant doesn't impress me. An amped Prime's been overpowered by less, i.e., Monarch who beat the entire Guardian amp out of him physically. And no, the cumulative damage Monarch beat him down with =/= universal explosion.

Originally posted by h1a8
It was more of an energy projection feat and not a strength one. Plus it was shared. Prime has survived a universal explosion before. A planetary one should tickle him. WTH does not being directed at the planet have to do with this? If energy comes forth from two beings that happen to destroy a planet then whether it was on purpose is irrelevant.
Hulk and Red shulk has energy projection feat under their belt.

Show us the energy projection that came from their body besides the one they created from their bodies?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Like I said, I'm not surprised you don't see the difference.

Prime getting KTFO by a universal explosion and surviving it alongside a tiny sprouting plant doesn't impress me. An amped Prime's been overpowered by less, i.e., Monarch who beat the entire Guardian amp out of him physically. And no, the cumulative damage Monarch beat him down with =/= universal explosion.

😂

H1 is going to give you a battle.

1. prime due to speed,but a tough fight.
2. prime just flat out destroys hulk here.

Prime.

This Gammatard wankage is as bad as the Void nonsense a year back.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's fine if you can't see the difference between blowing up a planet directly with blows or energy discharges, and blowing it up accidentally with an impact not even directed at a planet. Not surprised.

Ion Sodam Yat held his own for a good long while against Superman Prime (unamped) and really started faltering only when the lead poisoning kicked in. I see current Worldbreaker Hulk as physically over Ion Sodam Yat.

And I'm discounting all-out Worldbreaker Hulk from that equation.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Like I said, I'm not surprised you don't see the difference.

Prime getting KTFO by a universal explosion and surviving it alongside a tiny sprouting plant doesn't impress me. An amped Prime's been overpowered by less, i.e., Monarch who beat the entire Guardian amp out of him physically. And no, the cumulative damage Monarch beat him down with =/= universal explosion.

What's not impressive about surviving an explosion like that?

I believe Monarch, while holding his own, was on the receiving end of that fight, being why, you know, he exploded? Also, that Monarch was a complete monster. And... He had the amp through the Monarch fight, he didn't have it after the explosion, so it wasn't beaten out of him. Monarch himself said he was packing the energy of a big bang, and the moment he actually caused Prime pain, Prime tore him up and released it, and survived it.

And that Sodam Yat showing was meant to be very impressive, I suppose it just flew by you though, Superboy had pretty much just fought a JLA/JSA+ lineup iirc, through the night... while on low power, and they were hardly a challenge for him, but finally were about to get him as he was running completely out of juice.... once the sun hit him, they all put on their "Oh shit" face, as he simply shrugged off them all off.. Obviously meant to portray that they'd hardly be a challenge to him at this point. .. and then Sadam came in and took to him one on one for a while. And if my holding his own, you mean, tackling into him and going into the water for a moment before Prime smashed his face to pieces and then shoved a uranium rod through his stomach that breached his shields which let the lead in, sure. Yat wasn't in a fight to win, he was in a fight for survival after the initial contact was made.

Originally posted by Juntai
He had the amp through the Monarch fight, he didn't have it after the explosion, so it wasn't beaten out of him.
The text is dodgy, Prime had either completely used up his amp while fighting Monarch or it was almost gone.

Originally posted by Mindset
The text is dodgy, Prime had either completely used up his amp while fighting Monarch or it was almost gone.
Fair enough, that's why I wasn't basing it entirely on Monarch's text, mostly only taking the idea that when it's used up, he'll be a kid again.... he still looked adult until the end, the explosion, until next time we see him. Also, there's no telling how much of that energy was spent before ever encountering Monarch. Monarch just noticed that as it's used, he reverts.

Originally posted by Juntai
What's not impressive about surviving an explosion like that?
What's not to impress when a tiny sapling shared his feat? All kidding aside, I just treat his feat as being too similar to Vision and Wonder Man surviving ground zero of the Shiar Negabomb that wrecked a galaxy.
Originally posted by Juntai
I believe Monarch, while holding his own, was on the receiving end of that fight, being why, you know, he exploded? Also, that Monarch was a complete monster. And... He had the amp through the Monarch fight, he didn't have it after the explosion, so it wasn't beaten out of him. Monarch himself said he was packing the energy of a big bang, and the moment he actually caused Prime pain, Prime tore him up and released it, and survived it.
Monarch beat down Guardian Superman Prime. Unclear artwork notwithstanding, Monarch exclaimed he had beaten the amp out and Superman Prime didn't deny that as he was too busy being visibly hurt by Monarch's assault. It's my opinion that if he took on regular Superman Prime from the start, he would have wrecked him something fierce.
Originally posted by Juntai
And that Sodam Yat showing was meant to be very impressive, I suppose it just flew by you though, Superboy had pretty much just fought a JLA/JSA+ lineup iirc, through the night... while on low power, and they were hardly a challenge for him, but finally were about to get him as he was running completely out of juice.... once the sun hit him, they all put on their "Oh shit" face, as he simply shrugged off them all off.. Obviously meant to portray that they'd hardly be a challenge to him at this point. .. and then Sadam came in and took to him one on one for a while. And if my holding his own, you mean, tackling into him and going into the water for a moment before Prime smashed his face to pieces and then shoved a uranium rod through his stomach that breached his shields which let the lead in, sure. Yat wasn't in a fight to win, he was in a fight for survival after the initial contact was made.
Yat was doing alright up until the point he had lead stabbed into him. And even after that, he was going strong. He did get outlasted and yes, he did better than the combined ninjas heroes in Sinestro Corps War. So I'm not sure what we're disputing. And, while it's tiresome for some to hear, he was actually holding back for a while too.

I believe the physical ability necessary to match Superman Prime lies somewhere between a healthy Sodam Yat and Monarch. And it's far closer to Sodam Yat. And I think that's well within current Worldbreaker Hulk's range.

Monarch didn't beat the amp outa prime. He barely did any damage. The events leading up to his showdown with Monarch + energy used to challenge him exausted his amp. The only time Monarch really hurt Prime was when he released that nuke type explosion. Other than that, Prime had that fight totally under control.

Prime owns. He doesn't even register Hulk.

Looking at it, Prime did rather well. Neither could do serious Damage to the other. Though Monach looked more impressive because he took a worse beating, Prime survived an Universal Explosion point blank. He was Koed but there are few who wouldn't have been.

I think that Monarch was superior to Prime, if he was toying with him or if he tried to make him insecure, one can't tell for sure, though he was surprised that Prime survived his attack and it was pretty obvious that he couldn't finish the amped Prime, he fought and tried to keep on fighting till Prime run out of juice. If he could have finished him earlier he would have done so.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What's not to impress when a tiny sapling shared his feat? All kidding aside, I just treat his feat as being too similar to Vision and Wonder Man surviving ground zero of the Shiar Negabomb that wrecked a galaxy. Monarch beat down Guardian Superman Prime. Unclear artwork notwithstanding, Monarch exclaimed he had beaten the amp out and Superman Prime didn't deny that as he was too busy being visibly hurt by Monarch's assault. It's my opinion that if he took on regular Superman Prime from the start, he would have wrecked him something fierce. Yat was doing alright up until the point he had lead stabbed into him. And even after that, he was going strong. He did get outlasted and yes, he did better than the combined ninjas heroes in Sinestro Corps War. So I'm not sure what we're disputing. And, while it's tiresome for some to hear, he was actually holding back for a while too.

I believe the physical ability necessary to match Superman Prime lies somewhere between a healthy Sodam Yat and Monarch. And it's far closer to Sodam Yat. And I think that's well within current Worldbreaker Hulk's range.

Doing alright? He had his face smashed in and a uranium rod shoved through his stomach, before any lead took any effect on his body. It wasn't lead that was shoved into him, the lead AROUND him was allowed in when Superboy effortless jabbed through his shielding and his body with a uranium rod. After initial contact was made with Superboy, he was in a fight for survival, not a fight to win. Tackling him into water and shooting heat vision into him did little to persuade me he was actually handling his own in that fight when the next couple of panels have him being absolutely wrecked, blood flying from his face and a hole through his abdomen. Lucky to survive if anything.

How can you say Superman Prime is between Monarch and Sodam Yat, when invariably, he defeated and nearly killed both of them[the latter of which he did as Superboy Prime, and not Superman Prime, as the gap would have been even more significant if that were the case] and neither of them did any real signifant damage to him outside of a universal level quantum explosion going off in his face?

And perhaps I'm a bit behind on Hulk, I haven't been on the forums in some time, but what has he done that's even remotely close to what Prime was doing in countdown and SCWar, because the stuff I do know, like the old WWH material.. he didn't even scratch that surface.

You are better off not knowing unless you want to risk infection...

Originally posted by Mindset
The text is dodgy, Prime had either completely used up his amp while fighting Monarch or it was almost gone.
Your face is dodgy

Originally posted by Juntai
Doing alright? He had his face smashed in and a uranium rod shoved through his stomach, before any lead took any effect on his body. It wasn't lead that was shoved into him, the lead AROUND him was allowed in when Superboy effortless jabbed through his shielding and his body with a uranium rod. After initial contact was made with Superboy, he was in a fight for survival, not a fight to win. Tackling him into water and shooting heat vision into him did little to persuade me he was actually handling his own in that fight when the next couple of panels have him being absolutely wrecked, blood flying from his face and a hole through his abdomen. Lucky to survive if anything.

How can you say Superman Prime is between Monarch and Sodam Yat, when invariably, he defeated and nearly killed both of them[the latter of which he did as Superboy Prime, and not Superman Prime, as the gap would have been even more significant if that were the case] and neither of them did any real signifant damage to him outside of a universal level quantum explosion going off in his face?

And perhaps I'm a bit behind on Hulk, I haven't been on the forums in some time, but what has he done that's even remotely close to what Prime was doing in countdown and SCWar, because the stuff I do know, like the old WWH material.. he didn't even scratch that surface.

Originally posted by guy222
Originally posted by guy222

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=9403&pg=3

Actually quite impressive.

Credit goes to Guy222, the best there is 🙂

PG postet it also, so also respect to him 😉.