Originally posted by Nihilist
Surfer owns him easier than Thor did.
I don't care what you think about me but in the "past", I seen so much talent with you and your debating style. The only thing you do now is spam Hulk threads.
As for the battle... If Thor can't beat Hulk, Surfer sure as hell wouldn't do any better.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why should I attempt to use reason when you've clearly given up on it? For a post of that type, laughter is the best response.Thor is hurt and is going toe to toe with Surfer. I get it, you don't like what's happening, but stop pretending that you have any actual proof to support your stance.
If some hard evidence comes up you can make your case but so far, you're just being a butthurt Cosmic fan.
Worst case scenario? Thor's tougher than the Surfer but that's hardly newsworthy.
I don't know what you want me to say. Thor's an idiot, Fraction didn't think it through? Use whatever rationalization helps you sleep better at night.
I'm simply telling you what happened on panel. Thor relied on one of Mjolnir's most powerful aspects, it's Odin Force powered enchantment to take down the Thing. I know this hurts to hear, but Surfer would fair no better than Thing in that position.
Everyone from the Destroyer to Zeus has failed to overcome the return enchantment in the past. It's particularly powerful when Thor calls it to his hand as it's connected to his will/consciousness.
When the **** did me supporting my position ever mean giving up on reason? You're posting all those scans for absolutely no reason as if I stated that it was fact that Thor was unaffected from the wound. In other words, you're going through all this trouble just to get me to change my opinion of what's going to happen in the next issue. And you're calling me butthurt? Son, please. In case you haven't noticed, take the 10 foot pole out from your ass before it becomes permanently attached.
What I said in no way contradicts what was depicted on panel since all of that was said before the conflict, at which point actual hindrance from the wound SHOULD have come into play. And frankly I don't care that Thor is stalemating Surfer, but YOU care that he's doing so while "wounded." I'm sorry but if that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know is. The fight is showing NO evidence of the gash effecting him. NONE at all. He felt it while standing still and groaned while Odin was doing his monologue but now in the fight he's spry as a chicken. It's YOU who wants to explain that away as bad writing. I'm of the opinion that it's leading up to a reveal in subsequent issue. But just because I reason something to happen and stay firm in my belief DOES NOT mean I can't reason that before corroboration from panel depictions/statements. And dude, you can keep using sophomoric terms like butthurt and shit, but you really haven't done anything more than try to impress on people that Thor really is doing this while wounded. Wow. Who you trying to convince kid?
Basically, it comes down to this:
Thor's injured against surfer, and was injured against Hulk and Thing, and his injuries against Hulk and Thing seemed far worse, had more of an effect, and makes his feat of fending them off while in such sad shape even more impressive than matching Surfer, even if we can agree matching Surfer with an ill defined wound is still impressive in itself..
Originally posted by carver9Dont give a flying f*ck what you think, go cry somewhere else.
I don't care what you think about me but in the "past", I seen so much talent with you and your debating style. The only thing you do now is spam Hulk threads.As for the battle... If Thor can't beat Hulk, Surfer sure as hell wouldn't do any better.
Surfer wins.
Originally posted by cdtmNobody took into account that Thor fought various beings before facing the Worthy its not like Odin healed him before sending him back to midgard. Also Surfer going ham should beat Worthy Hulk hes hardly been impressive ...so far
Basically, it comes down to this:Thor's injured against surfer, and was injured against Hulk and Thing, and his injuries against Hulk and Thing seemed far worse, had more of an effect, and makes his feat of fending them off while in such sad shape even more impressive than matching Surfer, even if we can agree matching Surfer with an ill defined wound is still impressive in itself..
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nobody took into account that Thor fought various beings before facing the Worthy its not like Odin healed him before sending him back to midgard. Also Surfer going ham should beat Worthy Hulk hes hardly been impressive ...so far
I agree with this as well. The only thing Hulk was doing during the Thor fight was show casing his durability. I haven't really seen anything from him (even though I think he can take Surfer).
I guess when he is done with the vampire nation, we will see his capabilities.
Surfer 10/10
Thor who just took on a small army of the Serpents minions then get bfr in front. get BFR right in front of the 2 worthy managed to "mini spoiler" kill Ben then koed and BFR Hulk into space. Beat hulk A 100% Surfer should be him hands down.
Thor and Surfer are close enough on the same level despite who we would think is better. That if one of them weakened can take out Thing and Hulk. The other should have no problem opening up a good old can of whoop @%$
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Surfer 10/10Thor who just took on a small army of the Serpents minions then get bfr in front. get BFR right in front of the 2 worthy managed to "mini spoiler" kill Ben then koed and BFR Hulk into space. Beat hulk A 100% Surfer should be him hands down.
Thor and Surfer are close enough on the same level despite who we would think is better. That if one of them weakened can take out Thing and Hulk. The other should have no problem opening up a good old can of whoop @%$
Put that scan up where Hulk was koed.
Not a lot of people know this, but Surfer has other abilities besides superstrength and his board. It happened a really long time ago, so no one really remembers, but in one of his earliest appearances he got this ability called "The Power Cosmic" (dumb name, I know) that allows him to manipulate matter and energy. Anyway, he's used it a couple of times to pull some odd wins, and it might help out here.
Originally posted by Simbon
Not a lot of people know this, but Surfer has other abilities besides superstrength and his board. It happened a really long time ago, so no one really remembers, but in one of his earliest appearances he got this ability called "The Power Cosmic" (dumb name, I know) that allows him to manipulate matter and energy. Anyway, he's used it a couple of times to pull some odd wins, and it might help out here.
I don't know, man. This Power.. cosmic?.. is so rarely used, it's either a forgotten power, or PIS he ever had it in the first place..
Originally posted by Simbon
Not a lot of people know this, but Surfer has other abilities besides superstrength and his board. It happened a really long time ago, so no one really remembers, but in one of his earliest appearances he got this ability called "The Power Cosmic" (dumb name, I know) that allows him to manipulate matter and energy. Anyway, he's used it a couple of times to pull some odd wins, and it might help out here.
Hulk has a power to it's getting really mad hitting people and they don't get back up. 😛
Originally posted by Simbon
Not a lot of people know this, but Surfer has other abilities besides superstrength and his board. It happened a really long time ago, so no one really remembers, but in one of his earliest appearances he got this ability called "The Power Cosmic" (dumb name, I know) that allows him to manipulate matter and energy. Anyway, he's used it a couple of times to pull some odd wins, and it might help out here.
and while we're on this topic: the same CIS/CIP (or just warrior ethic) thor displays when he chooses to fight hulk, surfer for the large part doesn't even entertain the fact that hulk can beat him down like so:
this worthy hulk just looks like savage hulk with a hammer, costume change, and bilingual status.