The Silver Surfer should be able to defeat Worthy Hulk a dozen different ways...just like Thor could.
If "the fix" isnt in, Worthy Hulk shouldnt be able to lay a hand on Surfer; at the very least the Surfer should be able to beat Worthy Hulk via BFR every single time..
Thor>Silver Surfer>Worthy Hulk>Savage Hulk...
Silver Surfer 10/10 vs Worthy Hulk....
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The Silver Surfer should be able to defeat Worthy Hulk a dozen different ways...just like Thor could.If "the fix" isnt in, Worthy Hulk shouldnt be able to lay a hand on Surfer; at the very least the Surfer should be able to beat Worthy Hulk via BFR every single time..
Thor>Silver Surfer>Worthy Hulk>Savage Hulk...
Silver Surfer 10/10 vs Worthy Hulk....
The same owe people that tend to discredit all of Hulk fts.
Originally posted by carver9
The same owe people that tend to discredit all of Hulk fts.
Such as?
And why wouldn't Surfer be able to affect Hulk with his Power Cosmic? No matter how strong he gets, we're not talkiing about PC Validus or Thanos level durability.. Mad regen, maybe, but not true invulnerability.
That means his body isn't impervious to cosmic manipulation.. Say, if Sersi wanted to turn World War Hulk into a cabbage, he'd be turned into a cabbage (Unless he's displayed resistance even remotely close to Sersi's level..)
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
When the **** did me supporting my position ever mean giving up on reason? You're posting all those scans for absolutely no reason as if I stated that it was fact that Thor was unaffected from the wound. In other words, you're going through all this trouble just to get me to change my opinion of what's going to happen in the next issue. And you're calling me butthurt? Son, please. In case you haven't noticed, take the 10 foot pole out from your ass before it becomes permanently attached.
You gave up on reason when you posted what you did.
I posted the scans because you claimed that the wound was increasing Thor’s capabilities instead of hindering them when there is absolutely no evidence to actually support that stance. If the next issue comes out and you’re proven right, you can make the claims you’re making but at this point, the only thing supporting your stance is your dislike of what’s been printed.
The worst part is that you’re pretending you have some sort of iron clad proof. You don’t. At best you have conjecture and speculation while I have solid, non ambiguous on panel evidence.
Haha, why are you so mad?
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
What I said in no way contradicts what was depicted on panel since all of that was said before the conflict, at which point actual hindrance from the wound SHOULD have come into play. And frankly I don't care that Thor is stalemating Surfer, but YOU care that he's doing so while "wounded." I'm sorry but if that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know is. The fight is showing NO evidence of the gash effecting him. NONE at all. He felt it while standing still and groaned while Odin was doing his monologue but now in the fight he's spry as a chicken. It's YOU who wants to explain that away as bad writing. I'm of the opinion that it's leading up to a reveal in subsequent issue. But just because I reason something to happen and stay firm in my belief DOES NOT mean I can't reason that before corroboration from panel depictions/statements. And dude, you can keep using sophomoric terms like butthurt and shit, but you really haven't done anything more than try to impress on people that Thor really is doing this while wounded. Wow. Who you trying to convince kid?
baka
Oh the irony.
Of course I care that Thor is stalemating Surfer while wounded. That’s never been denied, but you clearly have a vested interest in this as well so let’s stop pretending like you have some sort of high ground. You’re the one who went so far as to hint that the space armor was some sort of noticeable advantage. You're the one who claimed Thor's injury was helping him instead of hindering him for no other reason than Thor being presented as tougher than Norrin.
I'm not trying to explain anything away as bad writing. The fact that you'd even label it as bad writing says it all son. You don't like what's being presented on panel so there has to be some other explanation despite what we've been hit over the head with. If you're proven right good for you but so far you're just butthurt fan utilizing confirmation bias.
Thor is sorely wounded and going toe to toe with the Surfer. That’s all the information we’ve been given so far. If the next issue presents new circumstances then I’ll reevaluate my position but as of now, that’s it. You have nothing but speculation on your side while I have non ambiguous on panel evidence:
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Mighty Thor #1:"It glows rather than bleeds Sif. What nature of wound is this?"
"You're hurt. You're hurting. You're in pain. You're distracted, you're..."
"Your wound, Thor. 'Tis worse. And Weirder."
Admit that your stance is supported by nothing other than speculation and I'll drop it. 🙂
It should be easy since I have an obvious vested interest in this and you clearly don't.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You gave up on reason when you posted what you did.I posted the scans because you claimed that the wound was increasing Thor’s capabilities instead of hindering them when there is absolutely no evidence to actually support that stance. If the next issue comes out and you’re proven right, you can make the claims you’re making but at this point, the only thing supporting your stance is your dislike of what’s been printed.
The worst part is that you’re pretending you have some sort of iron clad proof. You don’t. At best you have conjecture and speculation while I have solid, non ambiguous on panel evidence.
Haha, why are you so mad?
baka
Oh the irony.
Of course I care that Thor is stalemating Surfer while wounded. That’s never been denied, but you clearly have a vested interest in this as well so let’s stop pretending like you have some sort of high ground. You’re the one who went so far as to hint that the space armor was some sort of noticeable advantage. You're the one who claimed Thor's injury was helping him instead of hindering him for no other reason than Thor being presented as tougher than Norrin.
I'm not trying to explain anything away as bad writing. The fact that you'd even label it as bad writing says it all son. You don't like what's being presented on panel so there has to be some other explanation despite what we've been hit over the head with. If you're proven right good for you but so far you're just butthurt fan utilizing confirmation bias.
Thor is sorely wounded and going toe to toe with the Surfer. That’s all the information we’ve been given so far. If the next issue presents new circumstances then I’ll reevaluate my position but as of now, that’s it. You have nothing but speculation on your side while I have non ambiguous on panel evidence:
Admit that your stance is supported by nothing other than speculation and I'll drop it. 🙂
It should be easy since I have an obvious vested interest in this and you clearly don't.
Son you can't even read my posts. "Pretending" like I have some "ironclad proof? Can you even read? Or you're just resorting to some simplistic tactic of twisting someone elses's words to fit what you want to believe.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
[B]The "wound" seems to be doing more help than harm in regards to his capabilities. That's just not my thought, that's been consensus on other boards as well. In other words it's far too early and far to simple to say that Thor is irrevocably handicapped by the "wound."
You really sound like someone who hasn't/is incapable of taking the time to process and use critical analysis to see what my posts are. 1. I stated my position. 2. you responded in one of the most idiotic fashions possible 3. I explained and backed up my position with what I believe to be the pertinent points. 4. You read my pertinent points. You become so convinced by my pertinent points that you think they are concrete fact and are shrewd enough to inform me that I am presenting my opinions and reasoning as such. Wonderful. We've now established that there's some impairment with your critical reasoning.
You're too funny dude. You're trying to come off as if I've made an irrefutable statement so you can counter and say that I have no proof. Of course I have no proof, THE COMIC ISN'T OUT YET. I mean for real, have you been in any real situations where you had to present your ideas with reasoning behind them? Because I can tell you don't have much experience in doing that since you can't deduce the difference between a person who has reached an opinion (and defends that opinion when it clearly makes others uncomfortable and they challenge it), presented the reasons for reaching said opinion - and when the person is stating an actual fact. Go ahead, go back and read my posts. Then read your ridiculous response above.
That's some weak ass straw man accusation (like you did just now) that I'm passing that along as fact. The facts are that he claimed the wound was hurting him. The facts are that the wound had no visible impact on him whatsoever during the fight. It was even all but overtly stated once they landed on Mars. Those are the facts son, NOT the half-truth that you're trying to peddle that he was hurt per his statement and you take that for absolute gospel. Was it stated he was hurt? YES. Did it appear that he was hurt to any significant degree to effect his performance? NO. Logical deduction: Is the wound substantial enough to have a negative impact: MY REASONING: NO. You want to take my logic and reasoning as ironclad proof, that's fine. As it stands, I do have the high ground since you're spending all this time trying to change my opinion on something when I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. You come running with scans that in NO WAY contradicted anything that I posted. So don't try and think you've got some superior logic when all you can do is be incapable of telling the difference between one's explained opinion and a person stating fact.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The Silver Surfer should be able to defeat Worthy Hulk a dozen different ways...just like Thor could.If "the fix" isnt in, Worthy Hulk shouldnt be able to lay a hand on Surfer; at the very least the Surfer should be able to beat Worthy Hulk via BFR every single time..
Thor>Silver Surfer>Worthy Hulk>Savage Hulk...
Silver Surfer 10/10 vs Worthy Hulk....
BFR? They can be BFR'ed.
