Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol, at the dance.It is statistically proven that better looking people earn more on average, and of course people tend to hang around others like themselves and date others like themselves. People who have more money and look better date better looking people who also have more money. They tend to have better looking kids and live in better areas. Anybody who lives or has been to an upper class area has seen how good looking the people are compared to the poorer areas. Richer areas=better schools and better hospitals etc.
It's all one continuous cycle.
And that's the way it should be ✅
Originally posted by alltoomanyMany of those people are old though. It's a statistically proven fact that people who are more attractive make more money. They get more promotions, sell better, more likely to be trusted by people who want to deal with them. People with more money tend to dress better, have better hair care, lotions, diets, etc. People who are poorer tend to have worse diets and clothes.
lol I've meet many ungly wealthy people and thier kids are ungly too
Go to a rich area whenever you get a chance and check out the people. The chicks are *much* hotter in rich areas, and by beaches. The further you tend to be from the water, the fatter and uglier the people get. In my poor hometown where I was born, there's nothing there but fat ugly single mothers, the hot chicks move to the areas where the good looking and rich people live. That's why areas like Miami, Atlanta, LA, and New York have more hot chicks on average. More money.
Go to the Country Club one day, or the Chateau Elan or somewhere like that. There aren't these huge fat chicks running around like you see at the supermarket or Wal-Mart, they just aren't there. You don't see huge fat ugly guys there. Go to a really expensive (couple hundred dollars or more per dish minimal). No huge cows there. Really hot chicks.
Go to McDonalds, Burger King, Popeyes, see the ratio of ugly fat people there.
You know it's true. lol
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Many of those people are old though. It's a statistically proven fact that people who are more attractive make more money. They get more promotions, sell better, more likely to be trusted by people who want to deal with them. People with more money tend to dress better, have better hair care, lotions, diets, etc. People who are poorer tend to have worse diets and clothes.Go to a rich area whenever you get a chance and check out the people. The chicks are *much* hotter in rich areas, and by beaches. The further you tend to be from the water, the fatter and uglier the people get. In my poor hometown where I was born, there's nothing there but fat ugly single mothers, the hot chicks move to the areas where the good looking and rich people live. That's why areas like Miami, Atlanta, LA, and New York have more hot chicks on average. More money.
Go to the Country Club one day, or the Chateau Elan or somewhere like that. There aren't these huge fat chicks running around like you see at the supermarket or Wal-Mart, they just aren't there. You don't see huge fat ugly guys there. Go to a really expensive (couple hundred dollars or more per dish minimal). No huge cows there. Really hot chicks.
Go to McDonalds, Burger King, Popeyes, see the ratio of ugly fat people there.
You know it's true. lol
Please! I'm a Make-up artist! Worked all over... and trust me! you and your info are wrong! There are UGLY RICH PEOPLE in the world!
Originally posted by alltoomany
Please! I'm a Make-up artist! Worked all over... and trust me! you and your info are wrong! There are UGLY RICH PEOPLE in the world!
I really don't think he meant every single solitary person. just a majority, which is true, i'd say.
Though dissing Burger King? Oh hells no.
You nailed it on the head. That's all I was saying.
Originally posted by alltoomanyI thought it was clear that I was talking in general. There are exceptions to everything. Why is it when I say these things to people (particularly females) they take it as a personal sting or something? The exception doesn't disprove the rule.
Please! I'm a Make-up artist! Worked all over... and trust me! you and your info are wrong! There are UGLY RICH PEOPLE in the world!
There are men out there who don't have penises, but they generally do, and I shouldn't have to say that all the time. It's just a given. People who are more attractive tend to earn more money and date people like themselves, that's a fact.
Re: Is it a crime to be poor?
Originally posted by alltoomany
I really can't get over what I see and hear from some people. I was in the food store and I over heard a woman on the phone explaining why her boyfriend didn't have a nicer car, to (i guess) her friend.I had a plumber over my house fixing something and we got into talking, he past a comment that his mother and father didnt have enough money to buy him designer clothes when he was younger and they should have found a way, to have. He also said that he likes when other people fail, because it makes him look better.
Is being poor a crime?
no youe plumber is juat a douche
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You nailed it on the head. That's all I was saying.
I thought it was clear that I was talking in general. There are exceptions to everything. Why is it when I say these things to people (particularly females) they take it as a personal sting or something? The exception doesn't disprove the rule.There are men out there who don't have penises, but they generally do, and I shouldn't have to say that all the time. It's just a given. People who are more attractive tend to earn more money and date people like themselves, that's a fact.
So what do you say about Donald Trump?
People make up lots of Facts that they would like for people to believe.
Originally posted by alltoomanyWhat about Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, etc. Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Jo, Ryan Reynolds, Shemar Moore, etc.
So what do you say about Donald Trump?
Anyways Donald Trump is 65 years old. When he was younger he wasn't as bad looking. Even then there are exceptions to every rule, like Oprah. Not to mention Donald Trump has a beautiful wife and a hot daughter, proving my point.
Originally posted by alltoomany
People make up lots of Facts that they would like for people to believe.
People who are better looking tend to make more money and date better looking people. No woman wants an ugly poor man, and no man wants an ugly fat woman. Water seeks its level.
Name a rich good looking man with an ugly fat wife or girlfriend. Give me a list. I'll be waiting.
People get what they can get. Good looking successful people want other attractive people because they can get it, they can get the best and will get the best. That's a fact.
Single mothers, old women, fat women, ugly women, are for uglier and poorer guys who can't get any better. Beautiful women find men who are successful to take care of them. Ugly, fat, and old women have to work harder to be successful, which is why women who have to earn their money tend to be ugly. They have no choice and have to make their own money because no men will take care of them.
Here are some studies and facts and videos (don't know why I need them, but):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yVcXg2XfE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-dmo-Xqbds&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ53NvljAJ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y67V-AR6R78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEB1ObgEkA&feature=relmfu
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/beautiful-people-earn-12-more-than-ugly-bettys-461261.html
http://www.zmescience.com/research/beautiful-people-earn-250000-extra-on-average/
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/08/news/funny/beautiful_money/
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-07-20/news/27070380_1_newsweek-beauty-discrimination
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2009/05/16/Study-says-beautiful-people-earn-more/UPI-51601242502700/
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAgreed. Not saying it's good, but I agree with pretty much everything you said here.
What about Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, etc. Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Jo, Ryan Reynolds, Shemar Moore, etc.Anyways Donald Trump is 65 years old. When he was younger he wasn't as bad looking. Even then there are exceptions to every rule, like Oprah. Not to mention Donald Trump has a beautiful wife and a hot daughter, proving my point.
Yea people make up lots of facts, like ugly poor people who think looks and money don't matter. They want to believe it but they know it isn't true. How you look and how much money you make makes a big difference in your life. It changes who you date, what you do, and everything else.
People who are better looking tend to make more money and date better looking people. No woman wants an ugly poor man, and no man wants an ugly fat woman. Water seeks its level.
Name a rich good looking man with an ugly fat wife or girlfriend. Give me a list. I'll be waiting.
People get what they can get. Good looking successful people want other attractive people because they can get it, they can get the best and will get the best. That's a fact.
Single mothers, old women, fat women, ugly women, are for uglier and poorer guys who can't get any better. Beautiful women find men who are successful to take care of them. Ugly, fat, and old women have to work harder to be successful, which is why women who have to earn their money tend to be ugly. They have no choice and have to make their own money because no men will take care of them.
But like you said, there are exceptions, people think beauty is different than what other people do. Some people (the majority) like thin, big breasted women, while others value a good smile more than anything else. Anyway, I completely got off track, there is one thing I disagree with, attractive people don't generally make more money. Those people you listed off (the attractive ones) are movie stars, being an actor is one of the only profession where looks directly influence the job. The majority of people who make lots of money are there because they 1)Worked hard to get where they are. 2)Had a great idea, and made it happen (again, working hard) 3)Have a natural talent for their profession. That last one is a little more rare than the first two.
Now, successful people do tend to be more attractive, but it is because they take care of themselves, they are healthy, and that is generally an attractive feature, not that they were attractive and they became successful because of it.
Originally posted by menokokoroBeauty is subjective to an extent, but not totally, that's obvious. People have their types, but they hit certain categories like symmetry about the same.
Agreed. Not saying it's good, but I agree with pretty much everything you said here.But like you said, there are exceptions, people think beauty is different than what other people do. Some people (the majority) like thin, big breasted women, while others value a good smile more than anything else. Anyway, I completely got off track, there is one thing I disagree with, attractive people don't generally make more money. Those people you listed off (the attractive ones) are movie stars, being an actor is one of the only profession where looks directly influence the job. The majority of people who make lots of money are there because they 1)Worked hard to get where they are. 2)Had a great idea, and made it happen (again, working hard) 3)Have a natural talent for their profession. That last one is a little more rare than the first two.
Now, successful people do tend to be more attractive, but it is because they take care of themselves, they are healthy, and that is generally an attractive feature, not that they were attractive and they became successful because of it.
The majority of men in America like thin, flat butt, big breasted women. Men in other parts of the world like Brazil like bigger butts, and so do different cultures. Symmetry, smiles, figures are all genetically encoded for us to be attracted to.
And no that's wrong, I just put up several links that prove what I say. Men in business executives and whatnot earn more, sell better, and get more promotions, they also get better attention.
They work hard, no doubt about that, but their looks play a role. Their looks give them a boost. It's one big cycle. People who look better tend to make more money, tend to get more promotions, tend to sell better in their business, tend to be paid to advertise (models, actors, etc.) Look at singers, they're also generally attractive. People hang around and date others like themselves. Men who are attractive and rich tend to date attractive women, and have better looking kids. These kids grow up in more wealthy areas which have better education and healthcare. People who have more money tend to have better diets and cosmetic care. It's one big cycle. This is why in richer areas you see much more better looking people than in poorer areas, this is no accident.
Now even if people are talented, that alone won't always do it. Brittany Spears made it because she was hot and marketable, which is probably more important than being talented nowadays. If Brittany Spears looked like Rosie O' Donnel she wouldn't have been successful. Her singing "ability" had nothing to do with it.
The reasons that models actors, singers, etc make more money is for a key reason: They generate more revenue. This is no different in business. People who are attractive sell more, just like better looking people sell clothes better, and movie tickets better.
Oh and I'm not saying they're *not* talented, they are, it's just that if two people are equally talented and work equally hard and are equally smart, the better looking person will go further.
People taking care of themselves helps, but if you are ugly and fat it won't make a big difference how much you wear makeup or use shampoo, there's more to it than that. Ugly and fat people have to work harder to achieve the same success a good looking person does.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masteryeah, everything you said is true (apart from me being wrong 😄) but you are misreading what I said a bit (or I wasn't clear...probably the latter). The way I read what you were saying is "It pays more to be good looking more than having something to legitimately contribute to society." which is plain wrong. Yes, you are more likely to be successful than the person who has the same resume as you, if you are prettier than him/her, but if there is someone else, who isn't as pretty as you, but he/she works exceptionally hard, performs better than everyone else, or has a much better idea, that person will be rewarded more than the pretty one. (and these are the people who control the world).
And no that's wrong, I just put up several links that prove what I say. Men in business executives and whatnot earn more, sell better, and get more promotions, they also get better attention.They work hard, no doubt about that, but their looks play a role. Their looks give them a boost. It's one big cycle. People who look better tend to make more money, tend to get more promotions, tend to sell better in their business, tend to be paid to advertise (models, actors, etc.) Look at singers, they're also generally attractive. People hang around and date others like themselves. Men who are attractive and rich tend to date attractive women, and have better looking kids. These kids grow up in more wealthy areas which have better education and healthcare. People who have more money tend to have better diets and cosmetic care. It's one big cycle. This is why in richer areas you see much more better looking people than in poorer areas, this is no accident.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterWe are speaking in generals, so saying "that won't always do it" is irrelevant. You are also speaking about pop icons once again, they are SEEN by millions and millinos of people, so looks are very important, most people aren't trying to compete with britney spears. look at bill gates, steve jobs, etc, they had EXCELENT ideas, and worked their butts off to get there, they aren't particularly attractive. but those are a few exceptional cases, look at lawyers, judges, Business owners, computer programmers, etc. Being greatly talented in those fields is vastly more important than being attractive, so if you are much better than the more attractive person looking for the job, they will likely get it. Also, I don't know how often you have been to court, or talked to a lawyer, or doctor, or whatever, the most successful aren't exactly the most beautiful....at least that has been my experience.
Now even if people are talented, that alone won't always do it. Brittany Spears made it because she was hot and marketable, which is probably more important than being talented nowadays. If Brittany Spears looked like Rosie O' Donnel she wouldn't have been successful. Her singing "ability" had nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThe reason models, actors, singers, etc make more money is because people are horny, and they like seeing pretty things. But that makes up what .00001% of the job market (completely made up figure, just making a point). I'll agree that salesmen are better off to be attractive, but that doesn't mean that I'm wrong about hard workers being better off, and there are more jobs than just sales and pop icons.
The reasons that models actors, singers, etc make more money is for a key reason: They generate more revenue. This is no different in business. People who are attractive sell more, just like better looking people sell clothes better, and movie tickets better.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masteragreed. but you said that better looking people are generally more successful, I'm just saying that isn't true, it is the hard workers, the talented, the great inventors, that are generally more successful. Beauty is just gravy.
Oh and I'm not saying they're *not* talented, they are, it's just that if two people are equally talented and work equally hard and are equally smart, the better looking person will go further.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAnd they are better for it, and in the long run more valuable than the pretty person, so when they are both middle aged, and there is another wave of sexy twenty five year olds, the one who had to work harder will be appreciated much more, and will be more successful.
People taking care of themselves helps, but if you are ugly and fat it won't make a big difference how much you wear makeup or use shampoo, there's more to it than that. Ugly and fat people have to work harder to achieve the same success a good looking person does.
Originally posted by menokokoro
agreed. but you said that better looking people are generally more successful, I'm just saying that isn't true, it is the hard workers, the talented, the great inventors, that are generally more successful. Beauty is just gravy.
All else being equal an attractive person will go farther (or the same distance more easily). This isn't a consequence of being good looking, just of how people react to you and want to be around you. This isn't a hypothetical, it's been tested across a wide variety races, species, ages, cultures, and contexts.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos...you're missing my point. I'm saying that most successful people aren't the pretty people, they are the people who worked for it. But yes, I do agree with your statement.
All else being equal an attractive person will go farther (or the same distance more easily). This isn't a consequence of being good looking, just of how people react to you and want to be around you. This isn't a hypothetical, it's been tested across a wide variety races, species, ages, cultures, and contexts.
Originally posted by menokokoro
...you're missing my point. I'm saying that most successful people aren't the pretty people, they are the people who worked for it. But yes, I do agree with your statement.
Actually I'd say (and lots of successful people say) that the way you get there is to have a lucky break that you're able to recognize and then work for it. The majority of the world population that works hard for their whole lives will never make any progress because they're not in a position to do so.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYou got it.
All else being equal an attractive person will go farther (or the same distance more easily). This isn't a consequence of being good looking, just of how people react to you and want to be around you. This isn't a hypothetical, it's been tested across a wide variety races, species, ages, cultures, and contexts.
Originally posted by menokokoro
yeah, everything you said is true (apart from me being wrong 😄) but you are misreading what I said a bit (or I wasn't clear...probably the latter). The way I read what you were saying is "It pays more to be good looking more than having something to legitimately contribute to society." which is plain wrong. Yes, you are more likely to be successful than the person who has the same resume as you, if you are prettier than him/her, but if there is someone else, who isn't as pretty as you, but he/she works exceptionally hard, performs better than everyone else, or has a much better idea, that person will be rewarded more than the pretty one. (and these are the people who control the world).We are speaking in generals, so saying "that won't always do it" is irrelevant. You are also speaking about pop icons once again, they are SEEN by millions and millinos of people, so looks are very important, most people aren't trying to compete with britney spears. look at bill gates, steve jobs, etc, they had EXCELENT ideas, and worked their butts off to get there, they aren't particularly attractive. but those are a few exceptional cases, look at lawyers, judges, Business owners, computer programmers, etc. Being greatly talented in those fields is vastly more important than being attractive, so if you are much better than the more attractive person looking for the job, they will likely get it. Also, I don't know how often you have been to court, or talked to a lawyer, or doctor, or whatever, the most successful aren't exactly the most beautiful....at least that has been my experience.
The reason models, actors, singers, etc make more money is because people are horny, and they like seeing pretty things. But that makes up what .00001% of the job market (completely made up figure, just making a point). I'll agree that salesmen are better off to be attractive, but that doesn't mean that I'm wrong about hard workers being better off, and there are more jobs than just sales and pop icons.
agreed. but you said that better looking people are generally more successful, I'm just saying that isn't true, it is the hard workers, the talented, the great inventors, that are generally more successful. Beauty is just gravy.
And they are better for it, and in the long run more valuable than the pretty person, so when they are both middle aged, and there is another wave of sexy twenty five year olds, the one who had to work harder will be appreciated much more, and will be more successful.
Again, people who are better looking have a easier time being successful and don't have to work harder. People who are less attractive do have to work harder to be more successful.
Actors, models, porn, anchors of course have to be good looking, and that's because they sell better and generate more revenue. I'm a business owner myself and I already gave you examples and links of people being better looking and getting better jobs, and earning more. Lawyers getting better judgements, execs making more when they are better looking. Right Bill Gates wasn't as attractive as others, but if he were, he'd be even more popular and successful. Just like Oprah. Oprah has tons of talent at what she does (like it or not). But if she was better looking she'd be even more successful if she were more attractive. They have easier time selling products and getting deals than their less attractive counterparts.
I know many successful people and millionaires, and I know many rich areas as my company caters to upper class clientele, the ones who live in the richer areas look better, that's a fact. The ones who live in poor areas tend to look worse. Why do you think people who are good looking and successful that live in backwater poor places move to Atlanta, New York, LA, etc. Because there are better looking more successful people there. I hang with these people and know them. Also the people don't have to be filthy rich, even people who make six figures and whatnot are included.
Go to rich restaurants and see the level of attractiveness and dress of people vs a lower end restaurant there's a big difference. Neighborhoods like this are different, you see lots of hot women who have accomplished men beside them, because money and looks attract. Better genetics go with better ability to provide, it's genetic.
Not to mention sales is the most important part and lifeblood of any business. Business owners need to know how to sale, so do actors, models, and any job.
Again, Brittany Spears was not a talented singer and there are ugly people who are far less talented who don't do as well because they didn't have the same star power and marketability as these people do.
Beauty is not just gravy, beauty opens doors for people. Better looking people are treated better by peers and teachers, better looking people hang around people who have more money and looks like themselves which means they have a more exclusive social circle. Better looking criminals get lighter sentences. These are all facts and reality. Nature programmed us to like and want looks.
And yes better looking more talented people are more successful, than people who are good looking and not talented, *but* they are also more successful than their uglier equally talented counterparts. I believe in working hard, and I'm in no way implying that anybody who is good looking is rich, and anybody who is ugly is poor, but it is generally true.
Oh and entrepreneurs rule the world, and people who are successful take more risks. People who are more prone to taking risks tend to be more confident, and people who are more confident tend to be better looking. Nobody is saying people who are successful don't work hard (I'm a firm believer in that myself) it's just they go further if they are better looking.
There is a saying "C students rule the world". This is because people who are C students or college dropouts tend to think outside the box and own the businesses, and people who are A students tend to be better employees as they are more about following rules.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYou just agreed with what I said. I didn't say that ALL hard workers will be really successful, I said that most successful people are hard workers.
Actually I'd say (and lots of successful people say) that the way you get there is to have a lucky break that you're able to recognize and then work for it. The majority of the world population that works hard for their whole lives will never make any progress because they're not in a position to do so.