Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Of course. Men care about looks primarily.
At first sure but for most after he relationships starts its not the primary factor otherwise they'd all split the moment a hotter girl shows up. does it happen? Of course but is that what normally happens imo not really unless its still early in the relationship or its a bad one.
not saying they want ugly girls but as long as they find them what attractive I don't think the level is the primary thing anymore.
Originally posted by jalek moyeWe're talking about general attraction though, men lose interest when the attraction declines.
At first sure but for most after he relationships starts its not the primary factor otherwise they'd all split the moment a hotter girl shows up. does it happen? Of course but is that what normally happens imo not really unless its still early in the relationship or its a bad one.not saying they want ugly girls but as long as they find them what attractive I don't think the level is the primary thing anymore.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes. I posted the study and links. People who are better looking not only sell more at their own business and get attractive only jobs, they also are more likely to get promotions and raises. Doesn't mean people who are less attractive can't make money, just they have the odds against them.I actually remember you saying this yourself years ago.
Tend to disagree with that.. Have worked among Orothdox Jewish people and in my opinion, they seem to be less attractive and very wealthy.
Originally posted by alltoomanyMany old school wealthy people also used to inbred. But that's one group of people.
Tend to disagree with that.. Have worked among Orothdox Jewish people and in my opinion, they seem to be less attractive and very wealthy.
Go to nicer areas or nicer restaurants in general and more attractive people are there. Go to a welfare line or a cheap place and you'll see less attractive people. People who are poorer are also more likely to be overweight in this country.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Many old school wealthy people also used to inbred. But that's one group of people.Go to nicer areas or nicer restaurants in general and more attractive people are there. Go to a welfare line or a cheap place and you'll see less attractive people. People who are poorer are also more likely to be overweight in this country.
yes somewhat true.. however attitude goes a long way
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh sure. I'm just saying better looking people get more leverage in a lot of areas. Even if you aren't naturally gorgeous, if you dress well and stay in good shape, you could still be a 6 which is slightly better than average looking.
Just because you're a ten doesn't mean you get to look down on the rest of us. uhuh
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Beauty is subjective to an extent, but not totally, that's obvious. People have their types, but they hit certain categories like symmetry about the same.The majority of men in America like thin, flat butt, big breasted women. Men in other parts of the world like Brazil like bigger butts, and so do different cultures. Symmetry, smiles, figures are all genetically encoded for us to be attracted to.
And no that's wrong, I just put up several links that prove what I say. Men in business executives and whatnot earn more, sell better, and get more promotions, they also get better attention.
They work hard, no doubt about that, but their looks play a role. Their looks give them a boost. It's one big cycle. People who look better tend to make more money, tend to get more promotions, tend to sell better in their business, tend to be paid to advertise (models, actors, etc.) Look at singers, they're also generally attractive. People hang around and date others like themselves. Men who are attractive and rich tend to date attractive women, and have better looking kids. These kids grow up in more wealthy areas which have better education and healthcare. People who have more money tend to have better diets and cosmetic care. It's one big cycle. This is why in richer areas you see much more better looking people than in poorer areas, this is no accident.
Now even if people are talented, that alone won't always do it. Brittany Spears made it because she was hot and marketable, which is probably more important than being talented nowadays. If Brittany Spears looked like Rosie O' Donnel she wouldn't have been successful. Her singing "ability" had nothing to do with it.
The reasons that models actors, singers, etc make more money is for a key reason: They generate more revenue. This is no different in business. People who are attractive sell more, just like better looking people sell clothes better, and movie tickets better.
Oh and I'm not saying they're *not* talented, they are, it's just that if two people are equally talented and work equally hard and are equally smart, the better looking person will go further.
People taking care of themselves helps, but if you are ugly and fat it won't make a big difference how much you wear makeup or use shampoo, there's more to it than that. Ugly and fat people have to work harder to achieve the same success a good looking person does.
Looks don't have much to do with it when you are mature. True some people have more appeal than others. But we all know a pretty face don't mean a pretty heart. What I notice about a woman is her voice first. The tone and the pitch and then the eyes, the window to the soul.
That is because I am older now and know better, the physical parts are useless if what is going on between the ears is rotten and lazy.
Body size, or certain parts of the body or hair don't mean much at all to me, its the attitude that means more. The weight issue does perplex me though, as I wonder why fitness and such seems to be greatly neglected.
Is it just laziness or being down about something and reaching for comfort food?
Originally posted by YankeeWhalerWell when people are older they are less likely to be hired. I'm not saying people who are good looking are more likely or less likely to be nice. That varies from person to person. Just that they are more likely to earn more. On average.
Looks don't have much to do with it when you are mature. True some people have more appeal than others. But we all know a pretty face don't mean a pretty heart. What I notice about a woman is her voice first. The tone and the pitch and then the eyes, the window to the soul.That is because I am older now and know better, the physical parts are useless if what is going on between the ears is rotten and lazy.
Body size, or certain parts of the body or hair don't mean much at all to me, its the attitude that means more. The weight issue does perplex me though, as I wonder why fitness and such seems to be greatly neglected.
Is it just laziness or being down about something and reaching for comfort food?
Yes it's laziness. We're the fattest country on Earth after all.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Too easy....Isn't this the Randian/Republican national anthem?
the republicans are to rand what the nazis were to neitzsche
Originally posted by inimalist
the republicans are to rand what the nazis were to neitzsche
Originally posted by King Kandy
Actually I think Rand's philosophy is much more harsh than even what current republicans would suggest.
sure, in some ways. my point is that there are fundamental misunderstandings at the core of each comparison. hitler thought neitsche was giving the wink and the nod, saying that Jews needed to be exterminated and all that (simplified, I know) whereas modern republicans seem to think rand was in favor of a state that had no ability to enforce the regulations/contracts that people and the state engage in. I'm not making a pro rand or pro neitzsche point, just pointing out that rand would, IMHO, not support a vast amount of modern republican policy, as it undermines those contracts and essentially weakens the ability of the state to do the limited things she would support the state doing