Originally posted by menokokoro
You just agreed with what I said. I didn't say that ALL hard workers will be really successful, I said that most successful people are hard workers.
Yes, and people who earn more money tend to be better looking, better looking people earn more on average.
People who are ugly and work hard can be successful, but they just won't earn as much as their better looking counterparts all considered equal.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes, and people who earn more money tend to be better looking, better looking people earn more on average.People who are ugly and work hard can be successful, but they just won't earn as much as their better looking counterparts all considered equal.
Has that actually been looked into? Cause you seem to be presuming that what applies to bad vs good looking people also applies to hard working bad looking people vs hard working good looking people, which doesn't necessarily need to be the case.
Originally posted by Bardock42Yes. I posted the study and links. People who are better looking not only sell more at their own business and get attractive only jobs, they also are more likely to get promotions and raises. Doesn't mean people who are less attractive can't make money, just they have the odds against them.
Has that actually been looked into? Cause you seem to be presuming that what applies to bad vs good looking people also applies to hard working bad looking people vs hard working good looking people, which doesn't necessarily need to be the case.
I actually remember you saying this yourself years ago.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes. I posted the study and links. People who are better looking not only sell more at their own business and get attractive only jobs, they also are more likely to get promotions and raises. Doesn't mean people who are less attractive can't make money, just they have the odds against them.I actually remember you saying this yourself years ago.
No, you miss my point. I agree with that, but it is wrong to extend that to "hard working people".
What we know is that on average better looking people make more money.
What we don't know, without further research is whether on average hard working better looking people make more money.
It's just something I've been wondering, perhaps the complete benefit of being pretty goes to, medium or lazy workers, for example.
Originally posted by Bardock42I know what you were saying and I said yes.
No, you miss my point. I agree with that, but it is wrong to extend that to "hard working people".What we know is that on average better looking people make more money.
What we don't know, without further research is whether on average hard working better looking people make more money.
It's just something I've been wondering, perhaps the complete benefit of being pretty goes to, medium or lazy workers, for example.
Although being "harder working" is more difficult to gauge, it is a key to success. The more ambitious attractive people simply go further.
One thing I will say with women is that women who are successful at business tend to be fat, ugly, and/or old. This is mainly because really attractive women don't generally have to work and find accomplished men to pay their bills. The women who have to work hard to make that money are unattractive people like Oprah, hence why women in the Forbes list tend to be so ugly. Really attractive women can earn more easier, they just are more likely to drop out the work force completely.
Women who study hard in school and "work their way to the top" are generally ugly for this reason.
When Jay Leno first went to LA, he was arrested for having no money and no visible means of support. So up until recent last few decades, it was a crime.
It is like that Beatles tune Money Can't Buy You Love or happiness.
The happiest times I had were being broke, when I had money felt pressure to go out and buy something or go out to eat, hey we have it spend it. Those were the days I was the saddest.
I have worked hard in the past and it is complete BS and not worth the money. Find an occupation that you love and brings value and put in the 10.000 hours into it and then you will start making some big bucks.
Do it before the optimism, realism and postivity fades.
Be careful though, folks will see that you enjoy what you do and will do there darndest to be energy vampires and discredit you. No one can be happy and make lots of money, its a complete fallacy.
I am surrounded right now with people that are millionaries and they do not work hard at all.
They are highly skilled people at the same time they are skeptical about I lot of things. The posess critical thinking skills and take zero crap from anyone. And astonsishly they don't dish out crap either and are very nice people.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I know what you were saying and I said yes.Although being "harder working" is more difficult to gauge, it is a key to success. The more ambitious attractive people simply go further.
One thing I will say with women is that women who are successful at business tend to be fat, ugly, and/or old. This is mainly because really attractive women don't generally have to work and find accomplished men to pay their bills. The women who have to work hard to make that money are unattractive people like Oprah, hence why women in the Forbes list tend to be so ugly. Really attractive women can earn more easier, they just are more likely to drop out the work force completely.
Women who study hard in school and "work their way to the top" are generally ugly for this reason.
There are plenty of good looking people that are himbos and bimbos.
A bit of a sweeping generalization. Do agree though that good looking people seem to have better access to opportunites, but if you don't a good set of people skills to go with it, they will crash and burn badly.
Originally posted by YankeeWhaler
There are plenty of good looking people that are himbos and bimbos.A bit of a sweeping generalization. Do agree though that good looking people seem to have better access to opportunites, but if you don't a good set of people skills to go with it, they will crash and burn badly.
Some are, because they can do so. As I said women who are attractive can live off of accomplished men.
And of course it is a generalization, we are talking in general, in a general discussion forum. Are there exceptions, sure, but the facts speak for themselves, facts that nobody bothered countering. Studies have proven this true.
As for people skills? People who are better looking tend to be more confident, charismatic, and socially accepted. They get more favorable responses from people. So that is another advantage they have.
Many ugly people are also stupid and lazy. In fact people who are uglier and fatter tend to be poorer and vice versa, and poorer people tend to be less educated.
I made a simple comment. Those that are better looking make more generally. That doesn't mean that all good looking people are more successful than all ugly people, it just means they *generally* are.
Well Americans want things to be as cheap as possible, but they also want to be paid as much as possible for what they do. The work has to be produced somewhere to keep costs down. Maybe we should blame the middle class and poor for wanting things so cheap while also wanting to make more and more for the work they do.
Re: Is it a crime to be poor?
Originally posted by alltoomany
I really can't get over what I see and hear from some people. I was in the food store and I over heard a woman on the phone explaining why her boyfriend didn't have a nicer car, to (i guess) her friend.I had a plumber over my house fixing something and we got into talking, he past a comment that his mother and father didnt have enough money to buy him designer clothes when he was younger and they should have found a way, to have. He also said that he likes when other people fail, because it makes him look better.
Is being poor a crime?
Well to hear women say that in the Western Culture should not be all that earth shattering.
We are all of us conditioned to be secular materialists first and then spiritual second, if at all. For some reason women wants guys with huge stacks of cash and possessions. That is not love, that is gold digging.
If it was not for guys thinking they need a strong desire to score a few times a week, not so sure any guy would want a gf.
Does keep the aspirn company in business though.
Re: Re: Is it a crime to be poor?
Originally posted by YankeeWhalerYou can score without the headaches and expense.
Well to hear women say that in the Western Culture should not be all that earth shattering.We are all of us conditioned to be secular materialists first and then spiritual second, if at all. For some reason women wants guys with huge stacks of cash and possessions. That is not love, that is gold digging.
If it was not for guys thinking they need a strong desire to score a few times a week, not so sure any guy would want a gf.
Does keep the aspirn company in business though.