I'd put Odan-Urr below Nomi, personally... though we're drifting increasingly far
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This is a weak statement though. Jedi gain strength in each others' presence. We see it in The Approaching Storm as Jedi channel their powers to repel foes and are indicated by foes to exponentially increase each others' strength, and we see it in the mass of Jedi over Yavin IV, who rain fire and light down on Exar Kun. If anything, three Jedi Masters who knew each other, and who are on their guard for deception and death would have ALL their defenses up and aid each other if possible.
Solid points, though at the time they were hit, I don't think they were specifically working together on a defense.
Originally posted by Q99
I'd put Odan-Urr below Nomi, personally... though we're drifting increasingly far
Nomi's level of rapid progression in all things Jedi baffles the mind. She's a lightsaber pro in seconds and perfectly masters the Wall of Light on her first try. She's like the Shatterstar of SW.
Solid points, though at the time they were hit, I don't think they were specifically working together on a defense.
Agreed, it's hard to tell.
Originally posted by truejedi
u kno, if the Revan book makes him look pretty average, it's gonna make traya look bad by extension, and the entire era also look pretty shabby. (considering he was unspeakably amazing, supposedly)
That's a huge IF though. Drew's main concern was that people were assuming Revan > all based on gameplay, not obvious feats added to the lore of Revan by the writers themselves. I've spoken with him about the final duel via email previously, and he indicated that it was "epic", and that Malak had home court advantage, but Revan still took home the win.
You can balance "epic" and "badass" without all fights being two-second mop ups. I mean, we all agree that Yoda is badass, but he struggled with powerful foes. The same can be said of Kenobi, Luke Skywalker, etc.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Theres also the fact that the technique was used against an entire planet of Miraluka and hundreds if not thousands of Jedi. Either it is unblockable or Nihilus is strong enough to overpower hundreds of Jedi Masters at once.
N. was nothing like Kreia, he wasn't even human. You can't say that because N. used that technique to kill many Jedi that the technique could do that while being used by someone else.
Same goes for any Force Power actually. Isn't the strength of a technique dependant on the strenght of the user?
Do you really think that she is more powerul than 3 Jedi Masters combined?
Three Jedi Masters who did what exactly to prove their power?
She could.
Prove it.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
What principle? Starkiller is an atrocity to EU and that's saying quite a bit. I mean, EU has Luke Skywalker TKing AT-AT walkers and Sidious teleporting crap with wormholes, etc. EU has star destroying ships belonging to folks who dress like Egyptians and lack blasters. EU brought us Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
And yet I prefer Starkiller over almost all of that. Sure it's a stupid story and is another OP force user shoehorned into the OT but compared to a planet destroying Sith... Yeah, it's not that bad.
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
N. was nothing like Kreia, he wasn't even human. You can't say that because N. used that technique to kill many Jedi that the technique could do that while being used by someone else.
Not on that scale perhaps but the point still stands. Do we think that the attack is unblockable or do we think that Nihilus is strong enough to overwhelm hundreds of Jedi Masters at once?
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Same goes for any Force Power actually. Isn't the strength of a technique dependant on the strenght of the user?
Is it? What we are asking is whether the attack is even dependant upon strength. Theres quite a bit of evidence that says no.
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Three Jedi Masters who did what exactly to prove their power?
They were Jedi Council Members during wartime with one of them apparantly the Battlemaster of the Order. Kavar and Douche Van Baldy both can Stasis Field around a dozen combatants at once and all of them were advanced enough to utilise the Wall of Light technique, a high level technique noted to be 'difficult' to perform on top of possessing those advanced lightsaber forms and Force techniques that you can steal from them.
And even if they were only 2's while an average Jedi Master is a 3 and an above average one is a 4 or a 5, 3 of them still adds up to 6.
Simple. 🙂
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Prove it.
Very well. Why don't we take this to the proper thread however.
Originally posted by truejedi
Thanks slash. i actually committed forum suicide, because it's asinine that we keep coming back to this, but before the axe drops, I want to thank you for years of fighting the good fight. : )
Hey man you're the one who brought it up. You could of just let me keep my opinions to myself.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
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Problem?
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
There is no distinction between the nature and effect of either technique.
Is there not?
Did it also resemble this?