Anyone vs. Starkiller

It is very cheap, yes. ✅

Which is why it is opposed out of obligation by people around here.

Thank goodness it's not easy to "learn".

Eminence
facepalm

You would.

And I did.

Spoiler:
And I'm not ashamed to admit that there was a not small amount of sexual gratification in the act, as well.

Nephthys
🙄

Yeah sure he did honey.

Certainly the evidence indicates as much.

Nephthys
Thats why he wasn't able to overpower one Jedi (Yoda), whom he had already 'overpowered' by diminishing his ability to use the Force.

How about a magic trick?

Nephthys, with addendum by Mr. Phennir
Thats why heNihilus wasn't able to overpower one Jedi (Yodathe Exile),

Ta-daa! Your point's gone! sneer

Spoiler:
It's easy to twist circumstances into a way that gives us a favorable position in a discussion. Just like Nihilus is powerful enough to decimate a colony of Jedi Knights on Katarr and yet succumb to the skills of the Exile and co., does the Exile's defeat of him undermine it?

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Nephthys
I'm sure that is the exact definition of overpower.

🙄

Merriam-Webster
Definition of OVERPOWER

transitive verb
1
: to overcome by superior force : subdue
2
: to affect with overwhelming intensity <the stench overpowered us>
3
: to provide with more power than is needed or desirable <a dangerously overpowered car>

I'm not sure where the discrepancy is. Palpatine certainly subdued, overwhelmed, and overpowered ten thousand Jedi. That he did not do so physically does not, in any way, make the verb inappropriate for the purposes of this discussion.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Certainly the evidence indicates as much.

Yes, we all know he diminished their perception of the Force. Maybe next time you can link to something actually worth a damn.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
How about a magic trick?

Ta-daa! Your point's gone! sneer

Spoiler:
It's easy to twist circumstances into a way that gives us a favorable position in a discussion. Just like Nihilus is powerful enough to decimate a colony of Jedi Knights on Katarr and yet succumb to the skills of the Exile and co., does the Exile's defeat of him undermine it?

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I feel bad even giving this point the dignity of a response. You know very well that Nihilus did overpower the Exile and that he was only defeated because of her unique circumstance which exponentially weakened him. No such circumstance existed in the Yoda fight, wherein they were extremely well match, which utterly shreds your opinion that Palpatine was previously able to 'overpower' not just Yoda, but 10,000 Jedi as well. So you can cram your magic trick up your ass.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
I'm not sure where the discrepancy is. Palpatine certainly subdued,

No.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
overwhelmed,

No!

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
and overpowered ten thousand Jedi.

NO!

Could you possibly be a bigger Sidious fanboy? facepalm

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
That he did not do so physically does not, in any way, make the verb inappropriate for the purposes of this discussion.

They were not subdued, they were not overpowered and they were not overwhelmed, in any shape or form.

Me, Battle Bar p. 995
Neph, are you wanting to continue this discussion civilly or not?

I do. But I'm afraid it might not turn out that way if you insist on lies.

Lies are bad.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whether Kreia can defeat Starkiller. We I decided that she can. 🙂

Fixed that for ya.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I do.

Me too. So let's keep the agitation in check, plz.

If there exists some sort of psychological condition whereupon you violently react whenever someone disagrees with you, I need to be notified immediately so that I don't waste my time or torment you via further clever mocking of The Dark Knight.

Originally posted by Nephthys
But I'm afraid it might not turn out that way if you insist on lies.

First, I find that funny, given your conduct here. 😐

Second, simply because you disagree with it doesn't make it dishonest. The definition fits, the verb applies; Palpatine subdued Jedi perception. If you intend to argue that, then you'll need something beyond "NO!"

Otherwise, let's cut our losses here and apply our time and energies elsewhere.

Originally posted by ares834
Fixed that for ya.

That was a humorous comment intended humorously.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Me too. So let's keep the agitation in check, plz.

If there exists some sort of psychological condition whereupon you violently react whenever someone disagrees with you, I need to be notified immediately so that I don't waste my time or torment you via further clever mocking of The Dark Knight.

k.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
First, I find that funny, given your conduct here. 😐

Second, simply because you disagree with it doesn't make it dishonest. The definition fits, the verb applies; Palpatine subdued Jedi perception. If you intend to argue that, then you'll need something beyond "NO!"

Otherwise, let's cut our losses here and apply our time and energies elsewhere.

What dishonesty? If the Dark Reaper really did resemble Nihilus' Drain you would obviously have pointed that out. What, because I assumed that justifies you bounding away, tail betwixt your legs when I start beating you?

The definition does not fit in any way. He weakened their perception of the Force. Via unknown ways. That isn't overwhelming it, he's not overwhelming anything, they aren't actually fighting back. he's poisoning them, or making it harder for them to see. That isn't subduing them in any way. Its closing the blinds a bit.

And plus, he wasn't able to overwhelm Yoda, so your point is nonsensical.

Originally posted by Nephthys
k.

This pleases me. Moar than sex, even.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What dishonesty?

The link has the exact conversation, but you claimed that the Dark Reaper drain did not demonstrate Nihilus's and then you claimed not to know if this was true or not. Essentially, you not only claimed the above to be utterly factual, you were perturbed with me for not agreeing with your assumption.

Between this and the constant "noez!" I am becoming suspicious that you are, in fact, angry with anyone who doesn't share your exact view of the world. Say what you want about me, but I certainly don't expect you to agree with me simply because I say so, despite my enormous intellect and prodigious skills.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If the Dark Reaper really did resemble Nihilus' Drain you would obviously have pointed that out.

That is another dangerously faulty assumption. Are you certain there's no other possible reason? I can point out several.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What, because I assumed that justifies you bounding away, tail betwixt your legs when I start beating you?

Beating me................. haermm

Originally posted by Nephthys
The definition does not fit in any way. He weakened their perception of the Force. Via unknown ways. That isn't overwhelming it, he's not overwhelming anything, they aren't actually fighting back. he's poisoning them, or making it harded for them to see. Taht isn't subduing them in any way.

The definition does not indicate that certain methods must be used in order for the word to apply nor does it indicate that the victim must be fighting back. If it does, I would like to see a credible source.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And plus, he wasn't able to overwhelm Yoda, so your point is nonsensical.

First, I can assure you that I can find many sources that say otherwise.

Second, what does the duel with Yoda have to do with it? Read the definitions again: The second one uses an example of odor; does a stench literally beat the hell out of someone in a fight? No, yet the dictionary is content to use it as a credible application of the verb.

Third, this is why I said technically in the original statement. No one and I do mean no one covers their ass quite like me.

I got skillz bruh

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
The link has the exact conversation, but you claimed that the Dark Reaper drain did not demonstrate Nihilus's and then you claimed not to know if this was true or not. Essentially, you not only claimed the above to be utterly factual, you were perturbed with me for not agreeing with your assumption.

Whatever.

Show the damn thing already.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Between this and the constant "noez!" I am becoming suspicious that you are, in fact, angry with anyone who doesn't share your exact view of the world. Say what you want about me, but I certainly don't expect you to agree with me simply because I say so, despite my enormous intellect and prodigious skills.

k.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
That is another dangerously faulty assumption. Are you certain there's no other possible reason? I can point out several.

Well then show the thing and we can see how faulty my assumption was.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Beating me................. haermm

Of course. I am after all, infallible.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
The definition does not indicate that certain methods must be used in order for the word to apply nor does it indicate that the victim must be fighting back. If it does, I would like to see a credible source.

We've already had this argument and you lost.

Either way it is not the same because he did not do it against battleready opponents in an actual fight. Nor do we know how he does it, so its pointless to even bring it up.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
First, I can assure you that I can find many sources that say otherwise.

I somehow doubt you can do so to explain how Sidious could barely overwhelm Yoda one mement and yet 'overwhelm' both Yoda and TEN THOUSAND! (EMPHASIS!) previously.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Second, what does the duel with Yoda have to do with it? Read the definitions again: The second one uses an example of odor; does a stench literally beat the hell out of someone in a fight? No, yet the dictionary is content to use it as a credible application of the verb.

Third, this is why I said technically in the original statement. No one and I do mean no one covers their ass quite like me.

I got skillz bruh

Oh gee, more arguments over semantics. Who the hell cares.

Whatever you need to sleep at night. Just as long as you acknowledge that we're talking about completely different things.

And that he didn't overpower them at all. 😐

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whatever.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Show the damn thing already.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well then show the thing and we can see how faulty my assumption was.

I'll get around to that segment of the argument.

Originally posted by Nephthys
We've already had this argument and you lost.

Refresh my memory, because this seems to be a slightly longer "no u."

Originally posted by Nephthys
Either way it is not the same because he did not do it against battleready opponents in an actual fight. Nor do we know how he does it, so its pointless to even bring it up.

I never said it was the same circumstances or methods, my sweet.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I somehow doubt you can do so to explain how Sidious could barely overwhelm Yoda one mement and yet 'overwhelm' both Yoda and TEN THOUSAND! (EMPHASIS!) previously.

Me
I never said it was the same circumstances or methods, my sweet.

You assumed I meant that he overpowered ten thousand of them in a fight or in a manner relating to a fight.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh gee, more arguments over semantics. Who the hell cares.

It is your job as a debater to properly articulate your case. Being angry because I took advantage of your error does not make you less wrong. So much for infallible. I honestly don't know why this agitates you so.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And that he didn't overpower them at all. 😐

Originally posted by Nephthys
Second, simply because you disagree with it doesn't make it dishonest. The definition fits, the verb applies; Palpatine subdued Jedi perception. If you intend to argue that, then you'll need something beyond "NO!"

👆

If you're not willing to, let me know so more of our time isn't wasted.

Maybe this is why I always get angry when talking to you, because all our conversations devolve into bullshit dickwaving.

Urg, hang on.

Take your time, I'm heading out for a swim.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
I'll get around to that segment of the argument.

Wait, we're actually arguing? I thought we were just bickering again.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Refresh my memory, because this seems to be a slightly longer "no u."

Whether Obi-Wan cutting off Anakins legs in mid-air counted as 'overpowering' him.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
I never said it was the same circumstances or methods, my sweet.

Then why are we even talking?

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
You assumed I meant that he overpowered ten thousand of them in a fight or in a manner relating to a fight.

You're not?

/conversation.

I always deliver the goods promptly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I always deliver the goods promptly.

I love you so much.

Fvcking pool is closed. >:/

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wait, we're actually arguing? I thought we were just bickering again.

?
I'm referring to the Dark Reaper argument, which happened elsewhere, a few days ago.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whether Obi-Wan cutting off Anakins legs in mid-air counted as 'overpowering' him.

Ah, yes. But I don't remember why; do you have the link?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Then why are we even talking?

Because I enjoy your company.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You're not?

Well, no, of course not.

OMG, the Dark Reapers attacks are pink.