It was clear from the Incredible Hulks 634 that the planet was destroyed and not the dimension or universe. You can clearly see that the Moons of the planet remained intact. This was countered by quote lacking scans that umer said that her "realm" was destroyed. Hulk's man juice, that they guzzle by the gallons must really be something for them to prepetuate this balant lie for over a week.
Huh?
By the way...more proof that the dimension warps the shape of beings.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk.jpg
All of the damned had red eyes. Well, Armageddon, Wendigo and Bi Beast was damned and sent to the Dark Dimension. Read what Umar states about the damned...they are given new physical forms. Wendigo and the crew was chained and casted away with the beings that Umar speak of and they will forever be trapped in that dimension.
That is the main reason they had different physical forms and wasn't 90 ft tall.
Wendigo, Bi Beast, and Armageddon chained with the damned.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8588876/Incredible_Hulks_634_011.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Wendigo, Bi Beast, and Armageddon chained with the damned.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8588876/Incredible_Hulks_634_011.jpg.html
Thousands of times stronger, yet they couldnt break out these measley chains? 😆
Originally posted by Diesldude
Thousands of times stronger, yet they couldnt break out these measley chains? 😆
Chains made by Umar...hell no.
As for everything appearing back after the explosion...it is explained here.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk11.jpg
Umar can't even stop the Mindless Ones with all the power she has but Hulk can.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8588867/Incredible_Hulks_634_008.jpg.html
This was stated twice.
Originally posted by carver9Looks more like they all died, and then were reformed in the Dark Dimension without their new powers.
Goodnight...but when you come back, show me those scans that states someone wish could fade with time or by them hitting a space ship.
Based on the splat, and Hulk stomping in Arm's face. Also based on Wendigo and Bi-Beast and how they didn't have their new powers. The next time we see them, they're back to their old forms... I mean, how obvious can one thing get?
As for your scans (congrats by the way... or to whoever PM'ed you them), it says they were given new forms to match their crimes and savagery. Which means Arm wasn't given a new form, and their new forms to match them were their... old forms.
Also, your argument is now that they were given new physical forms, so obviously they retained their previous amps from the wishing well? So if Surfer died, and was reformed as an 80 pound asian woman, we'd assume he still had the power cosmic even if he never showed it? That's what you're trying to tell me when you say the beings who look nothing like they did before (size wise anyway) are still 1000 times stronger than normal.
So, when Wendigo and Bi-Beast appear in say, a years time and nothing has been said of their amps ever, we're going to still assume they are 1000 times stronger than normal all because it never said that their amps were taken away?
Assuming that beings that lack their defining characteristic of their powers retain their powers, ftw.
All they were was slightly below Savage Hulk level beings, which, while still very impressive (and it was very impressive) isn't the "OMG billions of times strongers!!!"
Why you have to take an already impressive feat and try to destroy it beyond recognition is anyone's guess. Was Hulk (with Betty) killing three Savage Hulk level beings, a bunch of Mindless Ones, and a planet not good enough for you? Was the story not good enough without Hulk killing beings thousands of times stronger? That's what people's problems are with you/this. It's not the feat per say, but people (you) stretching the truth 'till the brink of snapping.
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Pointless paragraph by the way. You won't understand anything I say.
Let me beat you to your Carver post with what you're going to say. Paraphrasing of course:
lol red eyes, they are the damned. They were given new bodies I posted it. I posted so much proof with that one scan on the matter, so much. Their powers were just condensed into a smaller form... which makes them even more dangerous and manueverable! lol why do you hate the Hulk? lol they were 1000 times stronger it was right there! Show me a wish fading.
I own a comic shop.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Looks more like they all died, and then were reformed in the Dark Dimension without their new powers.Based on the splat, and Hulk stomping in Arm's face. Also based on Wendigo and Bi-Beast and how they didn't have their new powers. The next time we see them, they're back to their old forms... I mean, how obvious can one thing get?
As for your scans (congrats by the way... or to whoever PM'ed you them), it says they were given new forms to match their crimes and savagery. Which means Arm wasn't given a new form, and their new forms to match them were their... old forms.
Also, your argument is now that they were given new physical forms, so obviously they retained their previous amps from the wishing well? So if Surfer died, and was reformed as an 80 pound asian woman, we'd assume he still had the power cosmic even if he never showed it? That's what you're trying to tell me when you say the beings who look nothing like they did before (size wise anyway) are still 1000 times stronger than normal.
So, when Wendigo and Bi-Beast appear in say, a years time and nothing has been said of their amps ever, we're going to still assume they are 1000 times stronger than normal all because it never said that their amps were taken away?
Assuming that beings that lack their defining characteristic of their powers retain their powers, ftw.All they were was slightly below Savage Hulk level beings, which, while still very impressive (and it was very impressive) isn't the "OMG billions of times strongers!!!"
Why you have to take an already impressive feat and try to destroy it beyond recognition is anyone's guess. Was Hulk (with Betty) killing three Savage Hulk level beings, a bunch of Mindless Ones, and a planet not good enough for you? Was the story not good enough without Hulk killing beings thousands of times stronger? That's what people's problems are with you/this. It's not the feat per say, but people (you) stretching the truth 'till the brink of snapping.^
Pointless paragraph by the way. You won't understand anything I say.Let me beat you to your Carver post with what you're going to say. Paraphrasing of course:
lol red eyes, they are the damned. They were given new bodies I posted it. I posted so much proof with that one scan on the matter, so much. Their powers were just condensed into a smaller form... which makes them even more dangerous and manueverable! lol why do you hate the Hulk? lol they were 1000 times stronger it was right there! Show me a wish fading.
I own a comic shop.
😂
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Originally posted by psycho gundam👆
anyone who was lead astray by carver's claims, and/or anyone who was lead to anger by the same said claims is dumber than they claim he is.when he started talking about the dimension thing last week, i made a stink face IRL and kept it moving.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebHm.
Actually, I think Carver started it tbh. In some ridiculous ploy to turn KMC against Hulk. He will use everything said in another forum to defeat a Hulk fanboy I feel
That has to be it. I mean, he posts things like this..
Originally posted by carver9
Umar wasn't big...the energy she was emitting was big. I didn't see Umar in that's scan at all except when they did a close up on her face.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebTrue.
Why you have to take an already impressive feat and try to destroy it beyond recognition is anyone's guess. Was Hulk (with Betty) killing three Savage Hulk level beings, a bunch of Mindless Ones, and a planet not good enough for you? Was the story not good enough without Hulk killing beings thousands of times stronger? That's what people's problems are with you/this. It's not the feat per say, but people (you) stretching the truth 'till the brink of snapping.^
Pointless paragraph by the way. You won't understand anything I say.Let me beat you to your Carver post with what you're going to say. Paraphrasing of course:
lol red eyes, they are the damned. They were given new bodies I posted it. I posted so much proof with that one scan on the matter, so much. Their powers were just condensed into a smaller form... which makes them even more dangerous and manueverable! lol why do you hate the Hulk? lol they were 1000 times stronger it was right there! Show me a wish fading.
I own a comic shop.
And 😂 at the last part.
Originally posted by Diesldudethis is the scan in which she says realm. it's IH 635
It was clear from the Incredible Hulks 634 that the planet was destroyed and not the dimension or universe. You can clearly see that the Moons of the planet remained intact. This was countered by quote lacking scans that umer said that her "realm" was destroyed. Hulk's man juice, that they guzzle by the gallons must really be something for them to prepetuate this balant lie for over a week.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=9403&pg=3
It's impossible to say exactly how much destruction they caused, we know at bare minimum they decimated the planet they were on (possibly more) included in this were a whole race of mindless ones (which were stated to be too much even for Umar), thousands of trolls, 3 herald level foes and an amped Fing Fang Foom. This is a stupidly impressive feat even without adding dimension destroying to the long list of collateral damage.
The final issue out next week should tie up loose ends until then it's just speculation as to what Umar meant by "destroyers of her realm"
Originally posted by 753
this is the scan in which she says realm. it's IH 635http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=9403&pg=3
Nice Scans! The Hulk and Betty are huge in that last one. wow!
Originally posted by carver9well, read this one:
Wendigo, Bi Beast, and Armageddon chained with the damned.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8588876/Incredible_Hulks_634_011.jpg.html
looks to me like umar gave all of those guys "a shot at her" and she wasn't satisfied... and the punishment seems to be jail time.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Not to gloat, but as soon as I started questioning it, everything fell into place.Actually, I think Carver started it tbh. In some ridiculous ploy to turn KMC against Hulk. He will use everything said in another forum to defeat a Hulk fanboy I feel
Good back a couple of pages and you'll see me question it a few times... As I stated.. the realm could very well just be the ONE planet that her throne is on. Or as I said in my analogy.. If somebody comes in and destroys 2/5 rooms in my house... I could easily say.. somebody came in and destroyed my house.. Yet it's still standing and mostly there. We have the same thing here.. destroyers of my realm/dimension... Yeah.. stuff was destroyed including the planet her throne was one.. this doesn't mean the entire dimension was destroyed.
Originally posted by -Pr-
So? Both seperate statements, and it looks like Hulk and Betty are still fighting within said dimension, so it couldn't have really been destroyed.--
If that's what people have been basing it on, then it's not valid. Period.
Any other evidence may be provided, but barring that, it is as is.
If you read IH 634 you will see that everything is being destroyed, and recreated again. Bi-Beast, Wendigo, Fin Fang Foom, were all destroyed, and came back.
I have a feeling that the Hulk will remain weak in many peoples eyes, even after the next comic comes out, so it seems that debating him on this forum is pointless.
Originally posted by Cogito
The planet was destroyed. There's absolutely no evidence of the dimension being destroyed. There's further no evidence that the planet they are fighting on in 635 is the same that they just destroyed.Bi-Beast, Wendigo, and FFF came back because Hulk wished for all the people to come back.
So if in the next comic we see Umar's castle back up nice and new, will your opinion be the same? How can we be sure that everything isn't being perpetually recreated? Like a form of hell where the Hulk and Betty can continue to battle forever? I think that's what is being stated in the IH's 634.
