Abortion dystopia #5823: Women deliberately conceiving and then aborting.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's bad when girls who are 16 or 17 do this. I tell men to watch about this because women are sneaky, but some are just too caught up by the genitals to pay attention. It's all a matter of scale.

Indeed. While the women my be devious, the men are equally at fault: they need to mature up and wrap it.

"BC used with a condo. are are best combo."

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
There are the Hispanics or ghetto chicks who brag about getting $200 a month, and then you have the hot gold-diggers who get huge $50 million dollars from men.

Makes me sad.

What makes me more sad are dead beat fathers. 🙁

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's all legalized prostitution, and don't get me started on alimony. This whole topic gets on my nerves. Women like to act like they don't want to abort because it is "against their morals" when they're out fornicating nonetheless. Then they have no problem aborting when it benefits them, but they won't if they can get a man to pay. I think men should have the same rights as women and be able to opt out. (The abortion should be the woman's choice, but no man should be forced into parenthood). The number of these pregnancies would go down if men weren't forced into it, or if women didn't get money in other ways.

I think that having a child should be an "approved" process. Meaning, you can't have a child unless you are deemed able to support it both mentally and financially. Yes, more fascism from dadudemon...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It also proves what I say, we all do what we want for our own benefit, and having kids is a selfish act. People do it to keep men around, to fulfill themselves to fill a void, etc. That doesn't mean they're "evil" for it, because we all act in our own self interest. But it is a selfish act. Especially since we aren't lacking in population.

End rant.

Some girls have babies because they want to be moms and don't expect anything from a man. I like those types: Intelligent, independent woman.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed. While the women my be devious, the men are equally at fault: they need to mature up and wrap it.

"BC used with a condo. are are best combo."

However, women still have the choice on whether or not a kid can be born, and as you and I know, they are quite devious about this.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Makes me sad.

What makes me more sad are dead beat fathers. 🙁

Women should stop choosing men they know are deadbeats. They choose to spread their legs for these men. What happened to women "Having the power of sex over a lot of (wimpy) men?" Who keeps choosing these guys. Women sleeping with "bad boys", guys in jail, guys with no job full well knew the guy was sorry. I know numerous girls like this. We all do. They date the felon, the ex con, etc. Then get knocked up by him to keep him around and then complain he is irresponsible. All while ignoring responsible guys who might not be as good looking or "exciting", but would make good fathers. They choose those guys later when they are older and their shelf life is up.

Complaining he's irresponsible? He was irresponsible before you met him you moron. Then citizens like us are forced to pay. Women who do this have a record of doing it multiple times, it's definitely not an accident. Stop trying to "change" the guy you're with and put a cork in it.

It's people go from being fully functional normal citizens to being deadbeats overnight. People should take responsibility for their actions. No different than me parking a Ferrari in a bad neighborhood at 2am with the door open and the key in the ignition. Should I be surprised it's gone? We have to exercise better decisions.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think that having a child should be an "approved" process. Meaning, you can't have a child unless you are deemed able to support it both mentally and financially. Yes, more fascism from dadudemon...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Some girls have babies because they want to be moms and don't expect anything from a man. I like those types: Intelligent, independent woman.

But having a kid and not wanting a man around still isn't good for the kid either. Still selfish. Even worse, now the kid has no father around and we see where that goes, especially for boys.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Any man who has sex without a condom is a fool, especially in this day in age. Guys like that have no ambition and don't care what happen to them and just perpetuate the poverty cycle. Not using a condom because "it doesn't feel as good is stupid" just like not wearing one because "she told you she was on birth control".

However, women still have the choice on whether or not a kid can be born, and as you and I know, they are quite devious about this.

Women should stop choosing men they know are deadbeats. They choose to spread their legs for these men. What happened to women "Having the power of sex over a lot of (wimpy) men?" Who keeps choosing these guys. Women sleeping with "bad boys", guys in jail, guys with no job full well knew the guy was sorry. I know numerous girls like this. We all do. They date the felon, the ex con, etc. Then get knocked up by him to keep him around and then complain he is irresponsible. All while ignoring responsible guys who might not be as good looking or "exciting", but would make good fathers. They choose those guys later when they are older and their shelf life is up.

Complaining he's irresponsible? He was irresponsible before you met him you moron. Then citizens like us are forced to pay. Women who do this have a record of doing it multiple times, it's definitely not an accident. Stop trying to "change" the guy you're with and put a cork in it.

It's people go from being fully functional normal citizens to being deadbeats overnight. People should take responsibility for their actions. No different than me parking a Ferrari in a bad neighborhood at 2am with the door open and the key in the ignition. Should I be surprised it's gone? We have to exercise better decisions.

Possibly, it wouldn't hurt. They give tax credits to people who are married and have kids, why I don't know. It's something they're going to do anyways, and they also cost society more. What would be better is if they made it with no taxes or something like a tax benefit for people who have two kids or less. Meh.

Right, but that's still self fulfillment, which is fine.

But having a kid and not wanting a man around still isn't good for the kid either. Still selfish. Even worse, now the kid has no father around and we see where that goes, especially for boys.

Man, you feel more strongly about this than I do.

Some men are players...and they swoon women promise them the world. They can talk the big talk. When babies come into the picture...they leave.

Some women know that they will be left alone and resign to support their children on their own. That's what I mean on that last part. Not the ones that try to get knocked up just to have a kid because it's like an iPhone for them: "Oh, having a baby sounds fun. They are cute! I want one!" Not that type.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Man, you feel more strongly about this than I do.

Some men are players...and they swoon women promise them the world. They can talk the big talk. When babies come into the picture...they leave.

Some women know that they will be left alone and resign to support their children on their own. That's what I mean on that last part. Not the ones that try to get knocked up just to have a kid because it's like an iPhone for them: "Oh, having a baby sounds fun. They are cute! I want one!" Not that type.

Well men who are players or badboys attract women because women think they can "change" these men or that their vaginas are "special" women will date men knowing he has a history of sleeping around. Guys like that are very open about their conquests. Women think he'll be different from them and then they find out wrong. Nothing wrong with having sex with a player, just don't get knocked up by them.

Most guys don't look forward to having kids until older. Most want to have fun, work on their careers, etc. Most have kids because the chick wants it, or because she had it anyways. They don't generally want kids until older. The ones that have them young are the ones who just were too dumb to use protection or got tricked into it.

Take care bro. 😛

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think that having a child should be an "approved" process. Meaning, you can't have a child unless you are deemed able to support it both mentally and financially. Yes, more fascism from dadudemon...

What would happen to a mother or family that has a child without getting approved, though? Obviously you don't want to pull a China.

Originally posted by Robtard
Article shows the possibility of abortions being used as a form of birth control. Most women who have an abortion do so because they became pregnant due to BC failure, laziness, idiocy, rape etc.; ie they did not wish to become pregnant. This woman did.

IMO, this thread is disgusting; using abortion as a form of birth control is; especially after purposely seeking a pregnancy. Though I doubt this is a common practice.

I highly doubt this sort of thing is common, either. They wouldn't interview someone about it if it wasn't an incredibly rare occurrence. Not to mention the fact that the US Government (thank you, Republican Congress) and various states are trying to put even more limits on abortions to make them hard or nearly impossible to get.

Also...using abortion as birth control? That's kind of what it is. It prevents a birth from happening. It is birth control.

The point was using it after purposely seeking to get pregnant, most women who use birth control(the pill, condoms and/or other hormone regulation) are not seeking to become pregnant to begin with.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think that having a child should be an "approved" process. Meaning, you can't have a child unless you are deemed able to support it both mentally and financially. Yes, more common sense from dadudemon...

Originally posted by Robtard
IMO, this thread is disgusting; using abortion as a form of birth control is; especially after purposely seeking a pregnancy.

Originally posted by TacDavey
What would happen to a mother or family that has a child without getting approved, though? Obviously you don't want to pull a China.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think that having a child should be an "approved" process. Meaning, you can't have a child unless you are deemed able to support it both mentally and financially. Yes, more fascism from dadudemon...

you have no fear of the state do you?

I don't like people having kids recklessly and irresponsibly. However I really don't want the government sticking their hands into my personal affairs either. For anything.

Even if it means protecting an unborn baby from being murdered?

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Even if it means protecting an unborn baby from being murdered?

Originally posted by TacDavey
What would happen to a mother or family that has a child without getting approved, though? Obviously you don't want to pull a China.

In my society, they physically are not able to have children, even if they want to.

Devices would prevent it. 😄

Then you can ask: what about illegal immigrants? They would be immediately known because in my fascist society, everyone has an implant and it passively tells us who everyone is. No implant, instantly noticed. 😄

Yes, Minority Report type scenario.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In my society, they physically are not able to have children, even if they want to.

Devices would prevent it. 😄

Then you can ask: what about illegal immigrants? They would be immediately known because in my fascist society, everyone has an implant and it passively tells us who everyone is. No implant, instantly noticed. 😄

Yes, Minority Report type scenario.

Sounds kinktastic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In my society, they physically are not able to have children, even if they want to.

Devices would prevent it. 😄

Then you can ask: what about illegal immigrants? They would be immediately known because in my fascist society, everyone has an implant and it passively tells us who everyone is. No implant, instantly noticed. 😄

Yes, Minority Report type scenario.

😱

If I fight on your side when you take over the world, can I not have an implant?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's better than having a kid and not being able to provide for it or raising it in a dysfunctional home with poverty and no father? Probably worse.

Give the kid to someone who wants children. Not all foster or Adopted parents are bad. 🙂

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Give the kid to someone who wants children. Not all foster or Adopted parents are bad. 🙂

How is going from home to home good for a kid anyways? I do agree that there are good ones out there, but there are a *lot* of bad ones, whether it's the kid of the foster parent. My friend's parents did it for a while, and a lot of those kids have troubled backgrounds.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But why keep cranking out kids into this world you can't afford? It costs society money and adds to the problem. This is why having kids is the most selfish thing a person can do (we're all motivated by our own self interest). The people adopting are somewhat more selfless as they are helping. But cranking out more and more kids in our dense population doesn't help anybody. Most people don't put their kids up anyways and let them live in poverty and dysfunction.

How is going from home to home good for a kid anyways? I do agree that there are good ones out there, but there are a *lot* of bad ones, whether it's the kid of the foster parent. My friend's parents did it for a while, and a lot of those kids have troubled backgrounds.

That may be true, but if you ask anyone what they would rather have happen to them, they have the possibility of a harder life, or they get killed, which option do you think most people are going to choose? And even if some might want to die, that is a choice we have no right to force on them.

That's why the question of the fetuses "personhood" is what's important in a debate on abortion. Should the fetus be treated as a child or not? If so, then we cannot justify killing it at all. If not, then we can do just about anything we want to it. Everything else is completely irrelevant.

Just saying... 😛

I disagree, I find beyond the personhood thing, which I obviously don't think a fetus is either, is also the issue of the mother's rights to her own body, which, in my view, even a full person has no right to.

the problem with the "personhood" thing is that it is just an entire mess of special pleading. Personhood means a lot more than simply "the right to life".

Tac specifies "like a child", but even that is problematic. Children have rights that a fetus does not (what defines a child anyways, anyone under 18? [sic]), and even then, the fact that "child" and "adult" can be differentiated means that it is just as possible to differentiate between "child" and "fetus"