Re: Who can kill classic juggernaut (if anyone can)
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
classic juggernaut at the height of his power.
like when eternity and oblivion failed to bypass his enchantment when they tried to kill himthanos
void sentry
molecule man
current hulk
king thor
sandman
demon wolverine
serpent
The event with Eternity and Oblivion failing to kill Classic Juggs is representative of comicbook inconsistency at its best; Eternity and Oblivion are major Abstracts, and so I have a hard time believing that they couldnt kill Cytorrak directly...let alone his avatar.
That event stinks of PIS; Thor could find a way to get around the enchantment, but Eternity and Oblivion could not!? Bulls**t...
Anyway, from that list, I believe that Molecule Man, King Thor, and the Serpent should be capable of killing Classic Juggs...
Re: Re: Who can kill classic juggernaut (if anyone can)
Originally posted by TheLordofMurdermaybe cyttorak is more powerful than them? heck oblivion let juggernat go inreturn for some of that power...
The event with Eternity and Oblivion failing to kill Classic Juggs is representative of comicbook inconsistency at its best; Eternity and Oblivion are major Abstracts, and so I have a hard time believing that they couldnt kill Cytorrak directly...let alone his avatar.That event stinks of PIS; Thor could find a way to get around the enchantment, but Eternity and Oblivion could not!? Bulls**t...
Anyway, from that list, I believe that Molecule Man, King Thor, and the Serpent should be capable of killing Classic Juggs...
Cytorrak is an Elder God; Eternity and Oblivion are major abstracts...
Yeah, some writters just may have portrayed Cytorrak as being greater than these two, but in my honest opinion, that is PIS'y (and writers write PIS all the time)...
Major Abstracts should trump Elder Gods without effort...let alone an Elder Gods avatar.
Originally posted by Cogito
Writers write bullshit all the time, Eternity and Oblivion are clearly meant to be above the likes of Cytorrak
When?
Seriously. When?
Ancient One has gone toe to toe with Eternity, and he is below Cyttorak.
Classic Strange has gone toe to toe with Living Tribunal, yet he is absolutely helpless before Cyttorak.
Cyttorak is an ominous entity, yet we know a large host of very powerful people call upon and are wary of his power.
Juggernaut was meant to be unkillable period, that was/is his outright purpose as a character. This is the same guy who with some time in the Crimson Cosmos was able to gain enough magical abilities to fight evenly with Nightmare in his realm. The classic Nightmare that had entrapped Eternity and that Strange could not defeat. So just with some magical abilities, Classic Juggernaut was someone who propelled himself into a legit cosmic level entity.
And its all because of Cyttorak.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
When?Seriously. When?
When their characters (ideas, abstracts) were defined.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Classic Strange has gone toe to toe with Living Tribunal, yet he is absolutely helpless before Cyttorak.
You trying to say Cytorrak is above LT? Come on now, this is textbook definition of PIS.
Originally posted by Cogito
When their characters (ideas, abstracts) were defined.
Non-commital answer. Cyttorak was never given a limit.
And his most famous avatar, Cain, was a bonafide cosmic entity at the height of his powers back in the classic days. And that was just with some magic learned from his time in the Crimson Cosmos.
You trying to say Cytorrak is above LT? Come on now, this is textbook definition of PIS.
Actually, why not? They are at least comparable. We know Cyttorak is unconcerned with matters that involve the entire multiverse, as we saw during Infinity War. There is only one Cyttorak, just as there is only one LT. LT himself has invoked spells from Raggador, a 'member' of the octassence (of which Cyttorak is the most powerful) such as during his fight with Strange.