Quasar vs Nova

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It's in my top 5 easily.
IG is not if that helps you.

Have you been keeping up with that Thanos Rising shit? A friend of mine reviewed it says it's basically phucking up the whole Thanos mythos with some sort of cosmic Hannibal Lecter style take.

Originally posted by dmills
Have you been keeping up with that Thanos Rising shit? A friend of mine reviewed it says it's basically phucking up the whole Thanos mythos with some sort of cosmic Hannibal Lecter style take.

It doesn't really bother me. We've never had a look into his childhood really, and we've seen proof or whatnot of him engineering things. Gamora, Geatar, himself etc. So him ripping shit to shit fits in. Especially since that little whore who's manipulating him is presumably Death.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He got like one shotted by Annihilus and then healed while Quasar engaged him, and then had to overwhelm Annihilus temp with the Worldmind... and then he passed out.
The second time he attacked a weak spot after Annihilus was weakened by a point blank Sexlactus attack.

And the Cancerverse War had Quasar shielding everyone from an attack that would have killded them to deathers.

If I remembered anything that happened in Annihilators, I'd probably bring up something. But in the meantime of me not looking, just know that Leo is going to ruff your romp up... to death.

EDIT: Imperative also had Evilvis stalemated Nova a couple times, and Quasar taking on Magus who Worldmind said was a kajillion times more powerful than Nova.

lol thanks for the vote of confidence. i haven't really gotten into my opinion regarding nova's stuff yet. still just focusing on getting some quasar stuff up THEN the death romp can begin..... mwuhahahah....

seriously, i'm just gonna post a lot of stuff then copy it over to the respect thread since it appears it could use some updating. and some peoples need to see just what good ole wendell was capable of.

Originally posted by leonidas
okay, so i'll upload a few more things over the next couple days then we can take a closer look. here's quasar's battle with masterson thor:

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/saemund/media/thor1_zps7dc04fe9.jpg.html

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/saemund/media/thor2_zps4818d259.jpg.html

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/saemund/media/thor3_zpsaa3bb875.jpg.html

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/saemund/media/thor4_zps0d16e152.jpg.html

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/saemund/media/thor5_zpsf2233836.jpg.html

i know it wasn't the real thor, but it was a much better battle all around and i think i'd give the edge to quasar in their respective showings. but you're right, they are very close in terms of power. i'll add more stuff so people can get a better idea of what quasar can do.

nova's best stuff is by far the annihilation stuff, imo. my ONLY problem with using that is that it is really nova's shining moment--he was the one getting the push in that arc, so it doesn't surprise me that in that arc he came out looking the better. his feats there were great. what i wanted to see was how he TYPICALLY performed. we can talk more if you're interested when all the feats have been presented. this is good--i've already learned a couple things about nova, and frankly, that's what i was after.

Honestly, I feel as though Q-train and Nova Prime are equals

Sure Quasar has low feats, but he has crazy highs too. His low feats are to be expected when he's a human. However, he's shown time and time again to have top shields and some happening fun armor to go with it. He's also pretty damn fast too to go with that defense of his weakness.

I'd say it's a tie. Either can win, either can lose. Quasar has better feats, Prime has more consistent feats. And they're generally portrayed as equals all the time.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Honestly, I feel as though Q-train and Nova Prime are equals

Originally posted by zopzop
I get what you are saying, but ignoring highs/lows (since each side will play up the ones that make their guy look good/opponent look bad), it's the averages I care about, especially against common foes.

And they do about as good against common foes. Except for the whole draining thing, and that's mostly due to Annihilus not knowing what the shit was going on with Worldmind.

Originally posted by zopzop
Not only wasn't it the real Thor, this is what Loki said about Masterson Thor's power level :

Make of that what you will, later in the story he makes Masterson Thor his b|tch in a way he NEVER did vs the real Thor (sans power amp).

and....now you lowball masterson (which if you look back you'll see i predicted). who cares what loki said in a different book with a different writer with a loki who pwn'd 4 versions of thor like they were nothing. masterson also had some good feats, but you never bother to bring those up. so, your lowball point: irrelevant. again. not sure why i bothered to click on the post to begin with. shant make that mistake again. 🙂

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Honestly, I feel as though Q-train and Nova Prime are equals

Sure Quasar has low feats, but he has crazy highs too. His low feats are to be expected when he's a human. However, he's shown time and time again to have top shields and some happening fun armor to go with it. He's also pretty damn fast too to go with that defense of his weakness.

I'd say it's a tie. Either can win, either can lose. Quasar has better feats, Prime has more consistent feats. And they're generally portrayed as equals all the time.

not sure i agree with the consistency of feats. quasar was damn consistent. his constructs varied depending on his concentration though, and constantly throughout the first 20 issues he's always reprimanding himself for underestimating his foes or for not making his constructs better/stronger. but as the series went on he grew both in power and confidence as well as effectiveness. when he was actually focused, or pi$$ed, his power level was very consistent. he doesn't have many low feats that he himself doesn't blame himself for causing. anyway, more feats coming up later.

Originally posted by leonidas
and....now you lowball masterson (which if you look back you'll see i predicted). who cares what loki said in a different book with a different writer with a loki who pwn'd 4 versions of thor like they were nothing. masterson also had some good feats, but you never bother to bring those up. so, your lowball point: irrelevant. again. not sure why i bothered to click on the post to begin with. shant make that mistake again. 🙂

EDIT -
It was the SAME WRITER!
http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor_Vol_1_437 (Masterson Thor vs Quasar)
http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor_Vol_1_441 (Masterson Thor vs Loki)

Oh and don't bother posting the Quasar/Warlock fight as proof that Quasar was controlling or manipulating the energies of the Soul Gem, because I saw you hint at that in another thread, and it's false as both you and I know.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure i agree with the consistency of feats. quasar was damn consistent. his constructs varied depending on his concentration though, and constantly throughout the first 20 issues he's always reprimanding himself for underestimating his foes or for not making his constructs better/stronger. but as the series went on he grew both in power and confidence as well as effectiveness. when he was actually focused, or pi$$ed, his power level was very consistent. he doesn't have many low feats that he himself doesn't blame himself for causing. anyway, more feats coming up later.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
[B]He got like one shotted by Annihilus and then healed while Quasar engaged him, and then had to overwhelm Annihilus temp with the Worldmind... and then he passed out.

The second time he attacked a weak spot after Annihilus was weakened by a point blank Sexlactus attack.

And the Cancerverse War had Quasar shielding everyone from an attack that would have killded them to deathers.

If I remembered anything that happened in Annihilators, I'd probably bring up something. But in the meantime of me not looking, just know that Leo is going to ruff your romp up... to death.

EDIT: Imperative also had Evilvis stalemated Nova a couple times, and Quasar taking on Magus who Worldmind said was a kajillion times more powerful than Nova.

how did the cosmic coadjuvant do against the magus? I don't recall the scene.

Nova kicked Evil Quasar's ass. I just posted the fight on the last page...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So you say leo, so you gay.

😂 😂

Originally posted by 753
and yet he still came out better than quasar
he strategized that shit just right, not to mention he led the war effort.
sure, I'll give you that one. it was quasar's momento to shine.
Leo and I are cool as cucumbers.
evil quasar? nova had the upepr hand IIRC

how did the cosmic coadjuvant do against the magus? I don't recall the scene.

And the only important being in the whole thing was Galactus. Nova just fisted his throat which for some reason was open.

K.

Leo wishes you were never born.

Upper hand, maybe, it's not like he was really winning, or actually won.

Well, funny you should ask good sir.
Here's Quasar just tossing the shit out of Evilvis, and kind of fighting Magus...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thanos_015.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thanos_016.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thanos_017.jpg

And then here's Quasar kicking the shit out of Evilvis again.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/TI_4_012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/TI_4_014.jpg

Obviously Nova's performances against Evilvis were way more impressive because he was Quasar's exact equal, but yeah, that happened, twice.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Leo wishes you were never born.

Upper hand, maybe, it's not like he was really winning, or actually won.

Well, funny you should ask good sir.
Here's Quasar just tossing the shit out of Evilvis, and kind of fighting Magus...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thanos_015.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thanos_016.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/thanos_017.jpg

And then here's Quasar kicking the shit out of Evilvis again.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/TI_4_012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/TI_4_014.jpg

Obviously Nova's performances against Evilvis were way more impressive because he was Quasar's exact equal, but yeah, that happened, twice.

so magus tossed quasar aside like a 3 dollar whore while manipulating a dozen planets. 'swhat I thought.

good for him on dealing with his evil dopelganger 😖hrug:

Originally posted by 753
that's not true. Is it, Leo?

lol that's just bran-speak for he luvs you.

so magus tossed quasar aside like a 3 dollar whore while manipulating a dozen planets. 'swhat I thought.

good for him on dealing with his evil dopelganger 😖hrug: [/B]

yeah, beating up a twin isn't anything new to quasar--i did like how the WM calls the evil twin a significant threat to his safety though. lol anyway, beating his doppleganger isn't a big deal. here he beats THREE versions of the protector of the universe simultaneously:

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp1.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp2.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp3.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp4.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp5.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp6.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp7.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp8.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/vp9.jpg.html

and if anyone missed it, those versions were considered by quasar to be even more powerful and better trained with the bands than he himself was. they were recreated by thanos when he had the IG. a very nice feat imo. there was a fourth (marvel boy) who quasar defeated very easily a little later.

Originally posted by dmills

Annihilus vs Quasar and Nova

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/onanthetransmuter/Annihalation-Nova04page16.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/onanthetransmuter/Annihalation-Nova04page17.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majic4haOe1rvm5qqo2_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majic4haOe1rvm5qqo3_1280.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img524/2230/annihalationnova04page2lw4.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Annihalation-Nova04page21.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Annihalation-Nova04page22.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/Annihalation-Nova04page23.jpg

At any rate my two cents. I believe these two friends are very evenly matched in terms of power. But at the end of the day I think Nova is just a bit tougher, has a bit more tenacity and will get the win over Wendell if they went at it.

Even Annihilus himself said Quasar's power was not quite as bright as Nova's gravimetric power, but it was still appetizing. I can post that scan as well if you'd like.

the fight with the bug has always annoyed me a little. all he seemed to do was drain/devour quasar's energy, but that always seemed a little pi$$y to me. the q-bands are just a conduit to INFINITE power. and by that i mean they actually tap into the power of the abstract INFINITY. note in the first one maelstrom actually compares the power of the bands to the IG!

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/1.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/2.jpg.html

the next scan is just kinda cool i though. i like what gaea says about wendell. this is after he saved the universe from maelstrom.

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/3.jpg.html

and finally a nice little showing vs IG thanos. note in particular in the second scan what he used to create the fist he hit thanos with....

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/4.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/5.jpg.html

he actually used/absorbed and redirected the IG's energy back at thanos! that is a pretty spectacular feat for the q-bands imho. he actually did pretty well for himself. obviously he couldn't win (and thanos just made the 4 protectors and left) but still, a very strong showing imo.

more later. this is actually kind of fun going through some of this stuff again. hopefully some people are getting a little better appreciation for how powerful wendell was. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas

and finally a nice little showing vs IG thanos. note in particular in the second scan what he used to create the fist he hit thanos with....

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/4.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/5.jpg.html

he actually used/absorbed and redirected the IG's energy back at thanos! that is a pretty spectacular feat for the q-bands imho. he actually did pretty well for himself. obviously he couldn't win (and thanos just made the 4 protectors and left) but still, a very strong showing imo.

more later. this is actually kind of fun going through some of this stuff again. hopefully some people are getting a little better appreciation for how powerful wendell was. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
the fight with the bug has always annoyed me a little. all he seemed to do was drain/devour quasar's energy, but that always seemed a little pi$$y to me. the q-bands are just a conduit to INFINITE power. and by that i mean they actually tap into the power of the abstract INFINITY. note in the first one maelstrom actually compares the power of the bands to the IG!

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/1.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/2.jpg.html

the next scan is just kinda cool i though. i like what gaea says about wendell. this is after he saved the universe from maelstrom.

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/3.jpg.html

and finally a nice little showing vs IG thanos. note in particular in the second scan what he used to create the fist he hit thanos with....

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/4.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/5.jpg.html

he actually used/absorbed and redirected the IG's energy back at thanos! that is a pretty spectacular feat for the q-bands imho. he actually did pretty well for himself. obviously he couldn't win (and thanos just made the 4 protectors and left) but still, a very strong showing imo.

more later. this is actually kind of fun going through some of this stuff again. hopefully some people are getting a little better appreciation for how powerful wendell was. 🙂

I wouldn't trip about it too much. It was made pretty clear that Annihilus feasted on Quasar's surface energies. He stated that his bands would give him even more power. So the whole conduit into the infinite quantum power schtick is in tact. He can only channel so much at one time.

This happens in comics all the time. I was annoyed when Annihilus was seemingly draining Nova because people more powerful then him have failed due to the backlash of trying to forcibly remove the Nova force. It's supposed to wreck a planet according to Supernova. The Sphinx also tried twice and failed due to the energy backlash. Then along comes the inferior Annihilus and apparently he's doing it. Mark Gruenwald also had some random vampiric leech dude siphon Nova's energy almost leaving him in a coma during the whole Starblasters arc lulz. Nova fans were like "Argh! that's not supposed to be possible!". But no writer is beholden to any earlier interpretation of another writer unfortunately. KM even showed me a scan of Nova telling Northstar that "he isn't fast enough" to keep up with something that was moving at hypersonic speeds lol! And then Northstar is all like "well I am fast enough. Here you can ride along in my slipstream" lol! Of course it was complete PIS, poor characterization and lack of basic character knowledge by whomever the writer was, but it's canon nonetheless smh.