and hulk could have shattered the planet if he really wanted to, CIP is why things happened the way they did
as for strange: all he can do is soul manipulation and dimensional bfr. if he chooses neither of those permanent methods hulk will be angry somewhere else or will overpower whatever other method strange employs as shown on-panel, and eventually beat him down.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Stark, Richards and Strange together rewrote reality.
I know what they are capable of...especially together but approaching Hulk in a face to face manner isn't going to help them. They tried that and failed. Reed magic doesn't work so well against Hulk. He tried more than once and failed.
Originally posted by carver9They had prep in WWH. They simply didn't pulled the deus ex machina plot device.
I know what they are capable of...especially together but approaching Hulk in a face to face manner isn't going to help them. They tried that and failed. Reed magic doesn't work so well against Hulk. He tried more than once and failed.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
They had prep in WWH. They simply didn't pulled the deus ex machina plot device.
They essentially had 24 hours of prep when you give Doctor Strange and Reed Richards who had the Black Panther at his disposal when you give those guys that amount of time and they fail you would usually think that the threat would be a couple levels above the Hulk.
I think both those guys are Bruce's friend and they are just certain methods and lines they wont cross also I don't think they were ready or prepared for how piss off Hulk was how powerful he had became or how far he would take it.
But I get what your saying this is a guy who has turned back Galactus on more than one occasion had a gun to destroy Celestials and a ray in his lab that could destroy a small moon.We have not even mention the Anti Galactus Robot or him having access to the negative zone hell I think he still has a time machine.
Originally posted by SuperiorTechI don't have a prob with them being crippled by CIS cause they are friends of Banner but they still could pull stuff that simply takes him out with no effort.
I think both those guys are Bruce's friend and they are just certain methods and lines they wont cross also I don't think they were ready or prepared for how piss off Hulk was how powerful he had became or how far he would take it.
Originally posted by carver9Plot, the whole "I-go-and-create-an-awesome-device-that-saves-the-day" thing is plot driven anyway. Tech trumps pretty much everything, Entropy Gun > Celestials, Tech turned the fountain of youth into a wishing well and in DC we have the miracle machine
Where was he during the Void deal.
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EDIT: Not to mention the inhibitor collars and the box that was able to nullify powers too, even Sentry was Bob again and the Raft has power dampeners aswell. They could have just taken the shit that's already lying around.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i don't know what you want me to say here. you're claiming the hulk beat characters not only weaker than the ones despero fought, but they were holding back (or fighting as low as they could). i don't think the last part is entirely truehulk was not only obviously holding back his power, but chose not to kill with the utter ease he easily could have.
the combined might of the JLA/JSA is on paper more powerful than most of the guys Hulk fought, was all i was saying.
as far as being as low as they could be/holding back, If that's what it sounded like, it's not what I meant. Yes, i felt that the people fighting Hulk at times underperformed, but i'm not saying they were at their worst either (though that cyclops "full power" thing is pure bullshit). i don't believe they were holding back as much as some were underwritten in most cases. i'm not saying hulk was weak, just that some people that fought him should have done better (even if they still lost).
in short, if you want to make hulk a true force of nature, then make everyone bring their A game and THEN get beaten. that's my main gripe with WWH, tbh.
regardless, I'd say that Hulk is superior physically to Despero, but I'd worry about Despero's ability to combine physical and telepathic attacks like he has in the past.
Originally posted by carver9
Probably but when does Reed ever resort to stuff like that minus Galactus? Where was he during the Void deal.
?
that's like asking why the flash doesn't turn up in every batman comic and just search gotham from top to bottom in 4.3 seconds.
it's comics.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I think there is a reason that the Sorcerer Supreme ended up in what amounted to a fist fight with the Hulk.You gave the likes of Strange 24 hours of prep and have him bring his A game and your event is over.
Agreed.
With prep, Strange matched each individual gem from the Infinity Gauntlet. Now imagine if the beam he used to match the Power Gems beam was turned on Hulk? Any Hulk.
He could probably take out most high abstracts with that level of power.. Or at the least, mess up a Celestial or two..
Originally posted by psycho gundamWhich would have done nothing to Strange and Strange could easily destroy the panet if needed
[B]and hulk could have shattered the planet if he really wanted to, CIP is why things happened the way they did
as for strange: all he can do is soul manipulation and dimensional bfr. if he chooses neither of those permanent methods hulk will be angry somewhere else or will overpower whatever other method strange employs as shown on-panel, and eventually beat him down.lol, Hulk would be able to hanlde Stranges blast power if he wasnt holding backm Hulk would never get through his shields.
Originally posted by Nihilistagain, goes both ways as you now know considering the latest hulk issue
lol, Hulk would be able to hanlde Stranges blast power if he wasnt holding backm
Originally posted by Nihilist Hulk would never get through his shields.
i already posted hulk making strange pass out from effort trying to slow him down with various mystics, but you think shields will help?
behold:
that machine was a devient designed weapon to battle the celestials
Originally posted by psycho gundamHulk destroying a planet,big deal Strange has destroyed dimensions.
again, goes both ways as you now know considering the latest hulk issue
i already posted hulk making strange pass out from effort trying to slow him down with various mystics, but you think shields will help?Seeing as he has resisted greater forces it comes across as pis
behold:The difference is Strange would still be able to attack from behind his shield plus Stranges shields have laughed off attacks from a well fed Galactus and Death.that machine was a devient designed weapon to battle the celestials
Originally posted by psycho gundami already posted hulk making strange pass out from effort trying to slow him down with various mystics, but you think shields will help?
Wasn't that when Hulk came to his house and Strange stopped him with a finger and used the eye on him and went into his mind and it was Nightmare manipulated Hulk I don't remember all the details.
That scan clearly stated that he was exhausted from the ordeal and that's why he collapsed.