The Hulk vs Despero (V&V)

Started by vansonbee8 pages

Originally posted by cdtm
Not sure I agree even current Hulk is superior, let alone WWH..

Besides manhandling more class 100's at once than Hulk did in WWH, Despero did hold up the Rock of Eternity.

Was there a stated weigh for "Rock of Eternity"? Posters been throwing its name around w/o a given weight.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Wasn't that when Hulk came to his house and Strange stopped him with a finger and used the eye on him and went into his mind and it was Nightmare manipulated Hulk I don't remember all the details.

That scan clearly stated that he was exhausted from the ordeal and that's why he collapsed.

yes to the first part, and no to the final portion.

let me just find it right quick 🙂

"...horrific howling of the hulk as he rends the dark dimension asunder." - dr. stephen strange

le gasp

Originally posted by psycho gundam

"...horrific howling of the hulk as he rends the dark dimension asunder." - dr. stephen strange

le gasp

I think it's pretty important that they mention him being exhausted and linking the strength of the bands to his physical condition.It's clear the bands was not strong enough to hold Hulk and that the added strain of trying on top of his exhustion caused him to caused him to collapse.

But unless we see a fresh strange fail to do that I don't see how you can use that as evidence.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I think it's pretty important that they mention him being exhausted and linking the strength of the bands to his physical condition.It's clear the bands was not strong enough to hold Hulk and that the strain of trying to caused him to collapse.

But unless we see a fresh strange fail to do that I don't see how you can use that as evidence.

he was fresh, the page before the fight he said he was about to head out to look for hulk to save him untill he conveniently started pounding on his door, hulk's struggling is what caused the fatigue.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he was fresh, the page before the fight he said he was about to head out to look for hulk to save him untill he conveniently started pounding on his door, hulk's struggling is what caused the fatigue.

The exhaustion was not attributed to Hulks pounding it was to the ordeal he went through in Hulks mind I can only go by what the comic clearly states.The pounding along with trying to hold Hulk most certainly contributed.

Him going out to look for the Hulk does not mean he was not exhausted.I dont see that stopping Strange from going out to look for the Hulk no matter what shape he is in considering he just saw first hand what happened and the danger the Hulk now posed.

Lol @ people using Classic fts for Strange when those fts really don't even apply to current Strange.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol @ people using Classic fts for Strange when those fts really don't even apply to current Strange.

I don't understand what your trying to say here when strange fought Hulk he was still the Sorcerer Supreme.We are not debating about current Strange.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I don't understand what your trying to say here when strange fought Hulk he was still the Sorcerer Supreme.We are not debating about current Strange.
👆exactly. Hulk fans will to any length to twist things.

During WWHulk Dr. Strange visited Banners mind and had his Astral hands broken, which resulted in Strange taking the same damage in physical space.

If Despero's power works in a similar manner, I see him failing as well to take over the Hulks mind, or body.

If he attempts to take over his mind in ways that mirror Xavier's, I see him suffering from a similar psychic backlash that pushed Xavier and Emma Frost out of his mind as well.

In my opinion this would end is a physical confrontation, and I don't think that Despero can hang with the Hulk for very long. So far the Hulk's strength can not be measured.

The Hulk's healing factor eliminates lactic acid from impairing the Hulk, so he could virtually fight non-stop for weeks on end, and only because of the fact that he needs to eat.

My vote is on the Hulk breaking something within Despero, after a long fight, and ultimately winning.

Starro's eye can break down pretty much any will. That's it's thing.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not sure I agree even current Hulk is superior, let alone WWH..

Besides manhandling more class 100's at once than Hulk did in WWH, Despero did hold up the Rock of Eternity.

He did? It's been a while since i read it...

Originally posted by cdtm
Not sure I agree even current Hulk is superior, let alone WWH..

Besides manhandling more class 100's at once than Hulk did in WWH

Yeah, his durability isn't the greatest. He's one of the most skewed characters in comics when it comes to the differences between strength and durability.

Not fair, those are Pre-Crisis Sharks. They can tangle with Galactus, if they wanted to.

Trollalala.

aqua-man also has access to pre-crisis re-bar

and ollie, pre-crisis gas

lol @ PC gas.. 😂

Are we using strictly V&V Despero? Because that's not the most formidable one.

Aquaman is pretty strong and he was just out of water, so that's easily a reasonable feat with the rebar.

As for the gas, well, I'm sure Despero still needs to breath...

World War Hulk would take V&V Despero imho.

Hulk smash.

But we can use all his powers. Flame Despero can warp reality and is probably the more formidable incarnation.