Revan + The Shans vs Skywalker Duo

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Originally posted by ares834
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What is so funny about this?

Let us list down some capabilities of Satele as demonstrated in the videos:

1. She can block a Lightsaber strike with bare hands and attempt to disable it with the Force.
2. She is capable of taking on several foes simultaneously.
3. She is very strong in the Force and can perform impressive feats with the Force; (a) she knocked down a large Tree; (b) she send a powerful Sith Lord packing with her Force Wave. The intensity of her attack shattered rocks behind the Sith Lord.

She certainly would have more feats to her name.

By all means, she is not a pushover and a weakling in comparison to other powerful individuals in Star Wars mythos.

This comes from her official profile:

"Renowned for her wisdom and powerful connection to the Force, Master Satele Shan is the voice and conscience of the Jedi Order."

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"Master Satele is a veteran warrior who has repeatedly confronted the power of the dark side and survived."

She is going to be a big name in Star Wars.

And yet she has done nothing to show that she could keep up with Luke Skywalker in a lightsaber duel. Afterall, she was defeated by Malgus in their lightsaber duel despite the fact that Malgus had yet to get his insane increase in power. Even with the force she has yet to display the power of DE Skywalker who destroyed an At-At with a wave of his hand.

Originally posted by ares834
And yet she has done nothing to show that she could keep up with Luke Skywalker in a lightsaber duel.

Luke may have edge in this regard. However, even under vulnerable moments, Satele is far from helpless. Pay attention to what she does in Hope Video.

Originally posted by ares834
Afterall, she was defeated by Malgus in their lightsaber duel despite the fact that Malgus had yet to get his insane increase in power.

She owned him with the Force though. And her powers would also be increasing with passage of time, no?

Originally posted by ares834
Even with the force she has yet to display the power of DE Skywalker who destroyed an At-At with a wave of his hand.

That was indeed an impressive feat. However, no need to exaggerate it. Powerful Jedi can cripple large machines through the Force. And AT-AT is not very big.

So absolutely nothing that compares to Luke's skill with the lightsaber or power with the force. Yep, I really see how she will win this.

Originally posted by ares834
So absolutely nothing that compares to Luke's skill with the lightsaber or power with the force. Yep, I really see how she will win this.

Again, no need to exaggerate. Bringing down a 20 m long AT-AT is impressive for you?

However, knocking down a much taller Tree by tearing through its trunk, tearing apart a very large and heavy boulder of rock in to pieces, and owning a powerful Sith Lord with the Force, is nothing in comparison? Give me a break.

Also, I told you that Satele Shan can hold her own against very impressive duelists. She is capable of performing very impressive moves and acrobatics while dueling her adversaries.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Again, no need to exaggerate. Bringing down a 20 m long AT-AT is impressive for you?

It should be to anyone.

However, knocking down a much taller Tree by tearing through its trunk, tearing apart a very large and heavy boulder of rock in to pieces, owning a powerful Sith Lord with the Force, is nothing in comparison? Give me a break.

Yep. Destroing a tree does not compare at all to taking down an AT-AT. As for the boulder, I would advise you to learn about Force Absorb. Satele just absorbed a massive amount of energy. There is no evidence that she could preform a similar feat whenever she wants.

Also, I told you that Satele Shan can hold her own against very impressive duelists. She is capable of performing very impressive moves and acrobatics while dueling her adversaries.

Who? Malgus? Lol. At this point in time he doesn't even compare to DE Palps and I'm a big Malgus fan.

DE Luke was also capable of exploding battle droids with the wave of his hands, and even knocked a giant size Vader statue over that crushed about three of Palpatine's dark jedi. Sedriss, who was powerful enough to use the force to draw an energy storm from Ossus' atmosphere, was easily knocked around by Skywalker.

Originally posted by ares834
It should be to anyone.

I stated that it is impressive. But nothing exceptional for a powerful Jedi.

Master Yoda lifted much larger machines with the Force. And he is one of the best combatants in Star Wars history.

Zayne Carrick levitated many miners from a disintegrating coment. And yet he sucked in combat.

Therefore, your point proves nothing.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep. Destroing a tree does not compare at all to taking down an AT-AT.

Not in terms of fighting capabilities. But in terms of mass, a large tree can be extremely heavy. Therefore, wreaking a fresh one purely with the Force is very impressive feat.

Originally posted by ares834 As for the boulder, I would advise you to learn about Force Absorb. Satele just absorbed a massive amount of energy. There is no evidence that she could preform a similar feat whenever she wants.

Force Absorb? You are clearly out of your mind. I will show you how.

Watch these images:-

Shan sends Malgus flying in to the larger boulder with a powerful Force Push:

The intensity of the Force based attack prevents Malgus from escaping on his own.

Then, Shan amplifies her power and unleashes a very powerful blast of energy in the form of Force Wave:

The very large and heavy boulder gets blown to bits:

Watch this video again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQf1nas8BO4

So who told you that she cannot perform this feat at her will? Don't come up with silly assertions of which you have no proof.

Originally posted by ares834 Who? Malgus? Lol. At this point in time he doesn't even compare to DE Palps and I'm a big Malgus fan.

Malgus is not a Lol.

And DE Luke also does not compares to DE Palpatine. He was clearly subdued by DE Palpatine in a fair contest.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
DE Luke was also capable of exploding battle droids with the wave of his hands, and even knocked a giant size Vader statue over that crushed about three of Palpatine's dark jedi. Sedriss, who was powerful enough to use the force to draw an energy storm from Ossus' atmosphere, was easily knocked around by Skywalker.

So?

Satele demonstrated similar capabilities:

"The Grand Master possessed prodigious Force powers. A gesture crushed hexes into balls or blew them apart from the inside."

Source: SWTOR - Fatal Alliance

Also, see above how she manhandles a powerful Sith Lord with the Force. And she is very much capable of knocking down large objects.

Honestly legend, do you have a girlfriend or ever got laid in your life? Honestly you have some weird issues and one of them is your extreme devotion to Revan or any Kotor characters.

Seriously, i have never seen such taboo devotion to fictional characters. You really need to see a psychologist man.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Honestly legend, do you have a girlfriend or ever got laid in your life? Honestly you have some weird issues and one of them is your extreme devotion to Revan or any Kotor characters.

Seriously, i have never seen such taboo devotion to fictional characters. You really need to see a psychologist man.

We've been telling him that for a long time. He's yet to explain his fanatical obsession with Revan and KotOR.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
We've been telling him that for a long time. He's yet to explain his fanatical obsession with Revan and KotOR.
Creepy. I mean being a fanboy is one thing, but to have an obsession like this over a fictional character? Thats absurd.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Honestly legend, do you have a girlfriend or ever got laid in your life? Honestly you have some weird issues and one of them is your extreme devotion to Revan or any Kotor characters.

Seriously, i have never seen such taboo devotion to fictional characters. You really need to see a psychologist man.


What is your problem?

I do have life apart from Star Wars. That is why I post so less now.

And what is the issue about debating on KOTOR characters?

There are far more PT and later era Star Wars fans here.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
We've been telling him that for a long time. He's yet to explain his fanatical obsession with Revan and KotOR.

You do not need to take things on personal level here. You will decide that what I should debate about here? 1 or 2 posts of mine per month anger you?

Stick to the topic. If you have something useful to contribute, then do so.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Creepy. I mean being a fanboy is one thing, but to have an obsession like [b]this over a fictional character? Thats absurd. [/B]

What obsession? I debate on these things lot less now. Check the history of posts in Star Wars sections and you will notice.

Keep your personal hatred out of this.

The sheer level of PT era and later Star Wars character workshipping in this forum is astounding and baffling.

I smoked the above two guys with correct knowledge. Why exaggerate the feats of PT era or later Star Wars characters so much, when there is no need?

Damn man! You guys just gang up on any fans of KOTOR based Star Wars works you encounter in debates. Mods should take notice of this.

Yeah, if we could cut the personal attacks that would be great. Particularly when he's actually bringing up good points. (He's right about trees being deceptively heavy)

Personally I can't recall much of what Lukes acheived by DE, but I do know that he has some impressive feats to his name such as the duel with Palpatine, the mentioned ownage of the AT-AT, speaking to people telepathically across the universe and dismantling and rebuilding Vaders castle (he's done that at this point right?).

Personally I don't know enough to call this one, but I'd say that Team 1's best bet would be Bastila's battle meditation and the remaining 4 duking it out.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep. Destroing a tree does not compare at all to taking down an AT-AT. As for the boulder, I would advise you to learn about Force Absorb. Satele just absorbed a massive amount of energy. There is no evidence that she could preform a similar feat whenever she wants

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Originally posted by shinkoryu
Honestly legend, do you have a girlfriend or ever got laid in your life? Honestly you have some weird issues and one of them is your extreme devotion to Revan or any Kotor characters.

Seriously, i have never seen such taboo devotion to fictional characters. You really need to see a psychologist man.


Dude, what the hell? You have five posts. At the time of this post you had four. Three of those were in a thread about a Star Wars MMORPG that hasn't come out yet. Literally one hundred percent of your online persona at the time of your first (unprovoked) personal attack had included words like "Korriban," "Zabrak," and "continuity." When you start throwing around proper nouns of the deep EU like "Naga Sadow" you forfeit any right to feign a superior social life.

So we've established that your interests are as outside the mainstream as Legend's. Why on earth would you feel the need to call him names? If you're socking, you don't want the attention. If you're new, you don't know him. There is no possible excuse for posting this kind of poison.

That said, welcome to the boards. We're a pretty insular group, but if you can handle a low level of good natured joking around (you know, the kind that doesn't involve asking people about their sexual history

Spoiler:
that part was the creepiest part of this thread so far
) then I expect you'll fit right in.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
We've been telling him that for a long time. He's yet to explain his fanatical obsession with Revan and KotOR.

You know better than this. "Fanatical obsession" is one thing, but siding with a sock, or really any poster in a completely unprovoked attack, is completely wrong headed.

Legend: You've done a good job in the thread so far of making your case; the screenshot post is particularly effective. This is probably the most convincing I've seen you. Good work.

Neph: Thank you for not jumping on the bandwagon of personal attacks. Shit like that is not helpful or productive, especially when we just had six threads closed for being a bunch of whiny bitches.

To the unwashed masses: If I see more like this, I will message REXXXX so fast your head spins. He's still an active poster; he's in the RP section constantly. Even if the report button is broken, he isn't gone. Shape up.

On topic: I think that Zonakin is more powerful than he's being given credit for. He is a beast of a combatant, and I don't think anyone has given him due consideration.

My vote is very much in the air.

Once again I feel the need to nominate Zam for a Mod position.

Nicely done. 👆

once again, i'd like to point out how random Zampano can be with his fits of responsibility and self-rightousness... : )

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I stated that it is impressive. But nothing exceptional for a powerful Jedi.

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Master Yoda lifted much larger machines with the Force. And he is one of the best combatants in Star Wars history.

Yes, and Yoda is likely the most powerful Jedi save Luke Skywalker himself... Plus according to some the cartoon itself is exagerated.

Zayne Carrick levitated many miners from a disintegrating coment. And yet he sucked in combat.

Which would have gravity far lower than that of a planet...

Therefore, your point proves nothing.

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Name me one other time a Jedi Master destoyed such a massive tank with a wave of his hand.

Not in terms of fighting capabilities. But in terms of mass, a large tree can be extremely heavy. Therefore, wreaking a fresh one purely with the Force is very impressive feat.

Which is nothing compared to taking down an AT-AT which is a far more impressive feat.

Force Absorb? You are clearly out of your mind. I will show you how.

She was absorbing his lightsaber numbnuts or at least attempting to.

So who told you that she cannot perform this feat at her will? Don't come up with silly assertions of which you have no proof.

She just used force absorb on a lightsaber... She can then expand all that energy in any way she wants. Do you not understand how force absorb works? Now proove to me she is capable of such a feat without the need to absorb

Malgus is not a Lol.

Malgus after this point in time was defeated by an unnotable Jedi Knight.

And DE Luke also does not compares to DE Palpatine. He was clearly subdued by DE Palpatine in a fair contest.

As was Satele subdued by Malgus... Regardless, Luke held his own against Palps and arguably beat him in a fair contest at the end.

Originally posted by truejedi
once again, i'd like to point out how random Zampano can be with his fits of responsibility and self-rightousness... : )

What can I say? I am a machine, and I can turn it on and off.
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Which is nothing compared to taking down an AT-AT which is a far more impressive feat.

You've said this several times. Why, exactly, is the AT-AT so much more impressive?

Originally posted by Zampanó
You've said this several times. Why, exactly, is the AT-AT so much more impressive?

Isn't it obvious. Trees are composed of wood and AT-AT's out of a metal that is harder than steel. Furthermore, Satele had to cripple only one trunk while Luke would have to overpower multiplte "trunks".