Some people like to point out that Nova only won because Annihilus was weakened. However that doesn't hold water. The bug had 2 possibly 3 amps working in his favor. This was alluded to in the battle a few times. Once those advantages were gone, the fight became fair and Rider ripped his guts out.
Some also point to the Galactus event to say Annihilus was weak from that. However according to these scans, Nova was in the nearby vacinity of the blast as well.
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A little misunderstanding with the Thunderbolts
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Originally posted by dmillsIf Annihilus didn't have a gaping mouth and instead had a human sized mouth, who would have won?
Some people like to point out that Nova only won because Annihilus was weakened. However that doesn't hold water. The bug had 2 possibly 3 amps working in his favor. This was alluded to in the battle a few times. Once those advantages were gone, the fight became fair and Rider ripped his guts out.Some also point to the Galactus event to say Annihilus was weak from that. However according to these scans, Nova was in the nearby vacinity of the blast as well.
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Also, Nova shielded himself while Annihilus took it head on
His 3rd or 4th day being a centurion. Fights Thor.
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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
If Annihilus didn't have a gaping mouth and instead had a human sized mouth, who would have won?Also, Nova shielded himself while Annihilus took it head on
He got over powered and let a guy shove his fist all the way down his throat. C'mon brah lol.
The Q-bands shielded him. I doubt he just flat out tanked it. At least that's what I got from it. Phyla mentioned them protecting him.
Originally posted by dmillsOverpowered? Nova ran at him and grabbed his jaw right away... I don't know how that says overpowered. Unless you're implying he overpowered Annihilus' jaw muscles
He got over powered and let a guy shove his fist all the way down his throat. C'mon brah lol.The Q-bands shielded him. I doubt he just flat out tanked it. At least that's what I got from it. Phyla mentioned them protecting him.
It shows him getting hit without the Q Bands shielding him. Before and after he gets hit, there's no shields showing
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Overpowered? Nova ran at him and grabbed his jaw right away... I don't know how that says overpowered. Unless you're implying he overpowered Annihilus' jaw muscles
You never answered my question though. Does Nova beat Annihilus without what Nova even said was a perceived weakpoint?It shows him getting hit without the Q Bands shielding him. Before and after he gets hit, there's no shields showing
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I mean unless you can think of a nicer, kinder, gentler way to say it, Annihilus got overpowered during that sequence. Rider runs at him and grabs his mouth, Annihilus is clearly trying to fight him off. He blasts his torso, scratches and claws at his head/helmut etc. He's taller then Rider, so it looks like he gets forced back and down towards the ground and then Rider finishes it. Annihilus sure as hell wasn't just standing there letting him do it, he got forcibly entered and violated. If Nova did that to his booty he'd be arrested.
I'd say so. I mean if he was as helpless as some suggest then I'd imagine Rider would blast him to shyte or eventually beat him to death or something. Whatever Keith Giffen hypothetically decided to do. Especially considering that according to this, he apparently never even used his full power against the bug. Then again I'm a fanboy, so I'm biased 🙂
Again, according to the dialogue, the bands protected him and fueled him. Unless you're arguing that he'd shield himself from Nova, but not the blast that destroyed 3 solar systems.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Overpowered? Nova ran at him and grabbed his jaw right away... I don't know how that says overpowered. Unless you're implying he overpowered Annihilus' jaw muscles
You never answered my question though. Does Nova beat Annihilus without what Nova even said was a perceived weakpoint?It shows him getting hit without the Q Bands shielding him. Before and after he gets hit, there's no shields showing
so any ol' jobroni can replicate that? um no. he outright gutted him. the same guy who atomized quasar when he was in close proximity. i cant believe ure still not giving the respect.
u talk about context this, context that. no shiet stories are all context based. he's all about controlling himself when he goes about doing his heroics. NP utilizes the super AI he has at his disposal when he get's into fights. Richie does this also to preserve the Worldmind. he isn't going to outslug anyone and everyone right off the bat. he will beat u with info and tactics (ie. Xenith) if he can. also there is his fear of losing control of the Nova force so always cutting lose at any given time is not his tactic of choic. u also talked about how easy it is to lobotomize living planets.
like i said. he will dig a little deeper into that well of his when he has to.
funny Thor wasn't able to do this recently. I'm not saying Thor can't, but it ain't that easy...
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earlier u said he got anal pushed by super skrulls. I think u are mistaken my friend. in fact at the end of that scuffle, Klr't recognizes his power. Klr't urged for them to escape from the Skrull V'ruk class warship, but Richie easily one shots the damned thing! And wut did Klr't say after? Klr't "sometimes if forget how potent you are, terran... much more powerful than all the other puny Xandarians..."
hmm.. lets talk about Moonstone.
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Impressive right? Against Nova Prime... not so much...
a holding back Richie one shots her when he realizes she can't be reasoned with. Does it with a wave of a finger.
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Give respect where respect is due. that's all im sayin...
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Originally posted by dmills
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/8/nova7.jpg/I mean unless you can think of a nicer, kinder, gentler way to say it, Annihilus got overpowered during that sequence. Rider runs at him and grabs his mouth, Annihilus is clearly trying to fight him off. He blasts his torso, scratches and claws at his head/helmut etc. He's taller then Rider, so it looks like he gets forced back and down towards the ground and then Rider finishes it. Annihilus sure as hell wasn't just standing there letting him do it, he got forcibly entered and violated. If Nova did that to his booty he'd be arrested.
I'd say so. I mean if he was as helpless as some suggest then I'd imagine Rider would blast him to shyte or eventually beat him to death or something. Whatever Keith Giffen hypothetically decided to do. Especially considering that according to this, he apparently never even used his full power against the bug. Then again I'm a fanboy, so I'm biased 🙂
Again, according to the dialogue, the bands protected him and fueled him. Unless you're arguing that he'd shield himself from Nova, but not the blast that destroyed 3 solar systems.
I guess he's saying Annihilus let Richie grab his mouth, rip it wide open, reach in, and gut him.... yeah.. i can see the way Annihilus was not overpowered there.
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Originally posted by dmillsYeah, He beats supergirl. going all out 7-8/10
As a Nova centurion he did well vs Thor even though Thor was far more powerful, fought gladiator to a double tko, beat the Sphinx, absorbed planet busting energy, destroyed the quintronic man etc.As Nova Prime he had a technical loss to the current Surfer, beat Annihilus, beat Ego, beat the Sphinx with two Ka stones, took on a team of the most powerful Thunderbolts while being portrayed as holding back, oneshotted a team of evil versions of Avengers, was able to briefly physically overpower a mature Technarch, blew up a fleet of ships with a blast so powerful that it registered lightyears away etc.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Overpowered? Nova ran at him and grabbed his jaw right away... I don't know how that says overpowered. Unless you're implying he overpowered Annihilus' jaw muscles
You never answered my question though. Does Nova beat Annihilus without what Nova even said was a perceived weakpoint?It shows him getting hit without the Q Bands shielding him. Before and after he gets hit, there's no shields showing
without Annihilus having the Qbands, it showed he has the capacity to. will he go around gutting opponents of Annihilus's level? no. it's just one of those things heroes do. they rise to the occasion. This time he did. does Hal "Krona bust" every trans leveler out there? answer is no.
there's ure context.
Bran's pretty much on the money.
Nova specifically said that the Quantum Bands were fueling Annihilus because surviving Galactus' attack drained him of his power. Which makes sense as we saw him fly into it unprotected at ground zero. With the bands, he was too powerful even in that state for Nova, taking them away is what gave Richard his chance.
Also, Nova didn't overpower Annihilus. Not in a direct contest of strength. He was more ferocious as the moment but that doesn't translate into power.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
like i said. he will dig a little deeper into that well of his when he has to.
funny Thor wasn't able to do this recently. I'm not saying Thor can't, but it ain't that easy...
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1. Alter Ego attacked Thor, blasting him with some kind of cosmic radiation from his core. IIRC, Richard on the other hand attacked Ego's core while they were having a conversation. It should also be noted that he was feeding on their Godly Essences, making him stronger -to the point he survived being destroyed- while weakening them.
2. That's the worst Ego has done against Thor. At one point, he broke through a force field protecting his brain, and then stunned him with a single hammer blast. That was an insane, Galactus level Ego for the record.
3. Thor takes Nova down harder than Surfer.
Quasars shields are best in the business...
Unless it's an energy type he can't effect....
The fact the writers killed him off using annihiuls's who comes from the negative zone which would be opposite the positive energy quasar draws on... Leads me to believe quasars powers were exposed and he wasn't ready... Thus he died. :-(
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bran's pretty much on the money.Nova specifically said that the Quantum Bands were fueling Annihilus because surviving Galactus' attack drained him of his power. Which makes sense as we saw him fly into it unprotected at ground zero. With the bands, he was too powerful even in that state for Nova, taking them away is what gave Richard his chance.
Also, Nova didn't overpower Annihilus. Not in a direct contest of strength. He was more ferocious as the moment but that doesn't translate into power.
No one is arguing the Qbands were amping him. and yet Annihilus flat out said, "Annihilus needs no power save his.. Annihilus is of power".
what happens next? he gets overpowered... will Richie get the majority over Annihilus on a regular basis? no. Is he capable of taking a win, u bet ure bibby.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Alter Ego attacked Thor, blasting him with some kind of cosmic radiation from his core. IIRC, Richard on the other hand attacked Ego's core while they were having a conversation. It should also be noted that he was feeding on their Godly Essences, making him stronger -to the point he survived being destroyed- while weakening them.2. That's the worst Ego has done against Thor. At one point, he broke through a force field protecting his brain, and then stunned him with a single hammer blast. That was an insane, Galactus level Ego for the record.
3. Thor takes Nova down harder than Surfer.
pshh.. did i say Thor can't do it? I just stated that it's not the easiest thing to lobotomize a living planet. it takes a considerable amount of power. Even Worldmind made a comment about it. and this ain't no Thor thread...
