WWH vs. Kurse

Started by carver911 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm referring to the fight where Hulk was extremely enraged.

He clearly lied. Proven by the punking of Sentry, Banner's admition and the Zom Hulk Buster battle.

When it was pointed out that Hercules was as strong as the Hulk, Banner said, "Not quite.". Even at that point he knew Hercules was almost at the Hulk's level.

You're right, Thor didn't one shot the Sentry that stalemated World War Hulk and was punked by Hercules. He put down an even more powerful Void influenced incarnation.

Thor is many times more powerful than Hulk.

Thor was clearly not using the Odin Force or he would have killed Rulk and Hulk accidentally.

Thor was obviously lying, trying to give Hulk a sense of security. The Green guy would have probably collapsed in fear if he knew what Thor was truly capable of.

Thor knocked out a significantly amped up current Hulk. I feel sorry for Hulk fans, even after like a dozen different power ups, Hulk is still at best on par with Thor.

It's no surprise though, Hulk's a weakling. Even an all out enraged World Breaker that was amped by Gamma Bomb was incapable of taking down A-Bomb without trouble.

Gamma God who?

Sigh*

I see what you are TRYING to do Rage. I'll let you have this argument because its pointless.

Originally posted by carver9
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I'm pure talent. I showed you the scans of his fight against WWH. Savage Hulk doesn't exist anymore.

You already know what happened on the next scene. Rulk flies Thor out of space with his own hammer...knee him and beat him with his own tool. Thor was overpowered.

Hulk laid into Zom because he was pissed. Zom didnt move after he first blow.

No, that isn't ww hulk. WW Hulk is the hulk who appeared in that arc.

Thor had his power sapped and his own weapon used against him due to gravity so that's not as conclusive as a straight up win. Zom wasn't beaten after the first blow he was defeated after the series of attacks and when he was defeated Hulk stopped attacking. You really don't understand even the Hulk. You think he went nuts on an already defeated Strange in the mindset he was in. Whoa, guy.

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh*

I see what you are TRYING to do Rage. I'll let you have this argument because its pointless.

Do you now?

You're giving up on the Hulk already? Gamma Judas.

I didn't want to believe it but after such a quick concession, I guess Hulk really is the weakest one there is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, that isn't ww hulk. WW Hulk is the hulk who appeared in that arc.

Thor had his power sapped and his own weapon used against him due to gravity so that's not as conclusive as a straight up win. Zom wasn't beaten after the first blow he was defeated after the series of attacks and when he was defeated Hulk stopped attacking. You really don't understand even the Hulk. You think he went nuts on an already defeated Strange in the mindset he was in. Whoa, guy.

Going in circles.

Originally posted by carver9
Going in circles.
You are saying Hulk defeated him with the first blow which makes no sense as Hulk purposely held back and just wanted to prove a point. If he did beat him why continue to pound on him it makes no sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are saying Hulk defeated him with the first blow which makes no sense as Hulk purposely held back and just wanted to prove a point. If he did beat him why continue to pound on him it makes no sense.

He didn't move after that blow...that's when Hulk followed up with a set of other hits. He was laid out after the first punch.

Hulk continued punching him because that's what he dons whon he is pissed. He did the same thing to Skaar and Surfer.

Classic Hulk arguments, ignoring everything about the character he is facing.

Kurse cant lose by simple physical means......but,but Hulk can get stronger!!

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't move after that blow...that's when Hulk followed up with a set of other hits. He was laid out after the first punch.

Hulk continued punching him because that's what he dons whon he is pissed. He did the same thing to Skaar and Surfer.

No, Hulk followed up until he was defeated. Hulk purposely didn't kill anyone and when an opponent was defeated he went about his business. You acting like he was oneshotted isn't accurate like most of your carvervole.

Kurse >Thor > WWh > Rulk

Originally posted by iceman24567
Kurse >Thor > WWh > Rulk
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WWH 6/10 while at the power level his was at for most of World War Hulk.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Kurse >Thor > WWh > Rulk

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In a forum battle the Hulk isn't limited to killing innocents correct?

What stops the Hulk from multiplying his base strength to an unknown factor?

The Hulks entire M.O is to grow stronger correct?

Can Kurse's strength grow, or does he have a limit to how strong he can get?

These are all of the reasons why I believe that Kurse would at first (15-20 seconds in) do well against the Hulk, but he would get beaten down.

Originally posted by Stoic

What stops the Hulk from multiplying his base strength to an unknown factor?

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Kurse beating him to near death.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Kurse beating him to near death.

The Hulk can take it up instantly, it doesn't take him minutes or hours to multiply his strength above anything seen in comics, he ramps up on a whim these days, but his only problem is his fear of hurting innocents which was recently addressed.

Notice him saying how he was holding back, but in a forum battle against an opponent with a limit to their strength, the Hulk would likely wear him on his feet the way he did to Fing Fang Foom.

Kurse just wouldn't be able to cope, with the dramatic increase in power. WW Hulk and the current Hulk are the same characters, the Hulk as I said simply doesn't go all out, because everything would be destroyed.

If Kurse even survived a full out battle with the Hulk, it would be due to bfr, because let's face it, the world that they fought on would be destroyed.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk can take it up instantly, it doesn't take him minutes or hours to multiply his strength above anything seen in comics, he ramps up on a whim these days, but his only problem is his fear of hurting innocents which was recently addressed.

Notice him saying how he was holding back, but in a forum battle against an opponent with a limit to their strength, the Hulk would likely wear him on his feet the way he did to Fing Fang Foom.

Kurse just wouldn't be able to cope, with the dramatic increase in power. WW Hulk and the current Hulk are the same characters, the Hulk as I said simply doesn't go all out, because everything would be destroyed.

If Kurse even survived a full out battle with the Hulk, it would be due to bfr, because let's face it, the world that they fought on would be destroyed.

hmmm...give me a bit. I'll respon appropriately to this soon.

WWH imo was = to Savage Hulk and heres y

Sentry jobbed, his power levels fluctuated to the point of being a concept for the character.

Reed's plan (mimicking sentrys aura) was the worst idea he has yet to come up with noting that him along with Charles, Tony, etc had infinity gems at there disposal

Also Hulk just didn't do much he couldn't have before. He beat up a lot of mid-tiers, he fought a Skrull Bolt that Namor beat to, he beat up a depowered Strange, Colossus, Wolverine, owned Thing etc

last but not least
Strange calling up ZOM to take him on, rather than dimension dump his ass until his hands healed( plus Strange even needing his hands at all). And thus allowing Zom's power out and risking him getting free when I'm all magically messed up is such a better choice than allowing bfring him to any number of uninhabited dimensions
Noting that Zom was something that Dormammu cooperated with mages both light and dark to seal away, and it took Eternity's assistance to defeat him

also add to the fact that when Strange let him out once, it took the Living Tribunal to deal with him.

Thats y i despise most post on message boards because immature debators will use remarks like if WWH defeated a Zom imbued Strange, he might be around Odin level

The Bottom line is Kurse durability (he withstood mjolnir AND stormbreaker btw) /strength imo is great enough to make short work of hulk

@Sin I AM

A few things in WWH's defense.
The Zom that was unleashed was only a fraction of the real Zom's power. The real Zom was annihilated by the Tribunal years earlier and the Zomling contained in that vial was only a sliver of his surviving power.

The Sentry was all over the place power wise during his career. He crushed MM but was humiliated by Herc. He had problems lifting a SHIELD Helicarrier, etc..

The Reed plan was idiotic, I'll give you that. Reed could probably have come up with a device to BFR Hulk's ass to the Negative Zone.

Concerning Kurse killing Hulk, Hulk's natural durability combined with his healing factor make that highly unlikely. Even lowly Professor Hulk was reduced to almost a skeleton and recovered near instantaneously. WWH > in all ways to Prof. Hulk. And heaven help Kurse if Hulk figures out his iron weakness, then it's lights out for Kurse.

Kurse throttles Hulk

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C

maestro shown he was stronger than wm thor who is amped 10x fold
wwh is stronger than maestro so wtf is a 4x thor going to do????