WWH vs. Kurse

Originally posted by Sin I AM
WWH imo was = to Savage Hulk and heres y

Sentry jobbed, his power levels fluctuated to the point of being a concept for the character.

Reed's plan (mimicking sentrys aura) was the worst idea he has yet to come up with noting that him along with Charles, Tony, etc had infinity gems at there disposal

Also Hulk just didn't do much he couldn't have before. He beat up a lot of mid-tiers, he fought a Skrull Bolt that Namor beat to, he beat up a depowered Strange, Colossus, Wolverine, owned Thing etc

last but not least
Strange calling up ZOM to take him on, rather than dimension dump his ass until his hands healed( plus Strange even needing his hands at all). And thus allowing Zom's power out and risking him getting free when I'm all magically messed up is such a better choice than allowing bfring him to any number of uninhabited dimensions
Noting that Zom was something that Dormammu cooperated with mages both light and dark to seal away, and it took Eternity's assistance to defeat him

also add to the fact that when Strange let him out once, it took the Living Tribunal to deal with him.

Thats y i despise most post on message boards because immature debators will use remarks like if WWH defeated a Zom imbued Strange, he might be around Odin level

The Bottom line is Kurse durability (he withstood mjolnir AND stormbreaker btw) /strength imo is great enough to make short work of hulk

All of this is just jacked. It was mentioned and proven numerous of times that WWH was FAR above Savage.

Originally posted by zopzop
@Sin I AM

A few things in WWH's defense.
The Zom that was unleashed was only a fraction of the real Zom's power. The real Zom was annihilated by the Tribunal years earlier and the Zomling contained in that vial was only a sliver of his surviving power.

The Sentry was all over the place power wise during his career. He crushed MM but was humiliated by Herc. He had problems lifting a SHIELD Helicarrier, etc..

The Reed plan was idiotic, I'll give you that. Reed could probably have come up with a device to BFR Hulk's ass to the Negative Zone.

Concerning Kurse killing Hulk, Hulk's natural durability combined with his healing factor make that highly unlikely. Even lowly Professor Hulk was reduced to almost a skeleton and recovered near instantaneously. WWH > in all ways to Prof. Hulk. And heaven help Kurse if Hulk figures out his iron weakness, then it's lights out for Kurse.

my point with Zom is in reference to the vast amount of other stores of power Strange could have used to accomplish dispatching Hulk. STRANGE Jobbed and to a slight lesser estent so did Reed, you couldnt

i was also shown (during his battle with sentry) that when battling extremely powerful foes he can run out of juice and depower himself...i believe Kurse can replicate said feat without running out of power or his durability being any worse for wear and k.o bruce

the closest thing hulk got to a good match was the anticlimatic battle with sentry...and the ass-pounding he received from strange...everyone else was meta tier...a feat ANY class 100 brick can duplicate

Originally posted by carver9
All of this is just jacked. It was mentioned and proven numerous of times that WWH was FAR above Savage.

HYPERBOLE MUCH? nothing within that story arc even slightly proved that statment

I gotta question for you Carver. name one class 100 brick who could not do the EXACT same thing Hulk did during that arc

Originally posted by Sin I AM
my point with Zom is in reference to the vast amount of other stores of power Strange could have used to accomplish dispatching Hulk. STRANGE Jobbed and to a slight lesser estent so did Reed, you couldnt

i was also shown (during his battle with sentry) that when battling extremely powerful foes he can run out of juice and depower himself...i believe Kurse can replicate said feat without running out of power or his durability being any worse for wear and k.o bruce

the closest thing hulk got to a good match was the anticlimatic battle with sentry...and the ass-pounding he received from strange...everyone else was meta tier...a feat ANY class 100 brick can duplicate

Again, I'm not disagreeing with you on the jobbing Sin. A whole lot of people jobbed that arc.

But again in WWH's defense, I don't know many bricks (aside from maybe Classic Juggernaut) that could have taken the damage Wolverine was dishing out. He had his claws all up in WWH and WWH's healing factor took care of it.

hmmmmmmm........pineapple thing, ulik, abomination, hell check this out...switch hulk out with Wendigo,( a smart one since bruce was in control) and i promise u you'd be hard-pressed to say he coudnt duplicate each feat

Originally posted by Sin I AM
HYPERBOLE MUCH? nothing within that story arc even slightly proved that statment

I gotta question for you Carver. name one class 100 brick who could not do the EXACT same thing Hulk did during that arc

One shot she Hulk? One shot Ares? Knock out Zom? Punch Sentry one time and bust his face open? Toy with Ghost Rider? Defeat a prepped amped up Ironman? Toy with the entire squad of prepped XMen? Hit Herc once and bust his face open? Tank an attack on the moon that leveled a chunk of the moon the size of a state and then ask for more?

WWH had the planet on complete lock down. They resorted to minimizing his healing factor which still did them no justice. He brushed off some of the most powerful telepaths on the planet and even defeated Strange in Astral Form.

Savage Hulk isnt anywhere close to WWH and that was proven on numerous of occasions.

Do you seriously believed those fights were legit? especially GR and Strange

Context carver 😐

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Do you seriously believed those fights were legit? especially GR and Strange

Looked pretty legit to me. You can't hate on on-panel proof. Just accept it and move on.

Originally posted by carver9
Looked pretty legit to me. You can't hate on on-panel proof. Just accept it and move on.

Carver i am through debating with you on Hulk because you are extremely biased. If you believe a Strange and Ghost Rider bouts were legit battles you obviously know nothing of comics or too big of a fanboy to hear the truth

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Carver i am through debating with you on Hulk because you are extremely biased. If you believe a Strange and Ghost Rider bouts were legit battles you obviously know nothing of comics or too big of a fanboy to hear the truth

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Sadly Strange and Ghost Rider were toyed by the WWH event arc, not specifically the Hulk.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Carver i am through debating with you on Hulk because you are extremely biased. If you believe a Strange and Ghost Rider bouts were legit battles you obviously know nothing of comics or too big of a fanboy to hear the truth

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk can take it up instantly, it doesn't take him minutes or hours to multiply his strength above anything seen in comics, he ramps up on a whim these days, but his only problem is his fear of hurting innocents which was recently addressed.

Notice him saying how he was holding back, but in a forum battle against an opponent with a limit to their strength, the Hulk would likely wear him on his feet the way he did to Fing Fang Foom.

Kurse just wouldn't be able to cope, with the dramatic increase in power. WW Hulk and the current Hulk are the same characters, the Hulk as I said simply doesn't go all out, because everything would be destroyed.

If Kurse even survived a full out battle with the Hulk, it would be due to bfr, because let's face it, the world that they fought on would be destroyed.

Kurse's punches will hurt hulk. More than any others he has felt as WWH. (except zeus obviously) You seem to be under the impression that as Kurse batteres hulk, hulk would be constantly getting stronger then just get up and mangle Kurse...no. WWH even while all pissed and snarling was bloodied from one shot of Hercules. Kurse would do much worse and not let the hulk get back up again. and hulk ALWAYS holding back is BS. :/ You know it is. A forum fight goes both ways. I honestly dont see hulk getting strong enough quick enough before Kurse dazed him and the KO'd him.

Edit: and im only talking about WWH. not World breaker hulk. Hulk wouldnt make it to that form anyway before he was KO'd.

WWH is stronger than Kurse.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH is stronger than Kurse.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
hmmmmmmm........pineapple thing, ulik, abomination, hell check this out...switch hulk out with Wendigo,( a smart one since bruce was in control) and i promise u you'd be hard-pressed to say he coudnt duplicate each feat

Originally posted by Damborgson
According to the official carver handbook this is correct.

Originally posted by carver9
They resorted to minimizing his healing factor which still did them no justice.

Originally posted by Damborgson
just wanna point out that isn't true. The power surpresents were nevet put into the hulks system. Its explained in Wwh the initiative.