Movie Thor vs. X-Men 3 Magneto

Started by Robtard4 pages

Originally posted by the ninjak
No I'm not.

You can't supply me with a feat of Magneto manipulating magical based elements. So you're dodging the argument.

Magic/Science, a fine line blurs the two. One that is certainly beyond plastic.

LoL, still dodging. RJ reborn.

Thor's armor is metal by all appearances, so the burden that magic makes immune to magnetism is on you.

Drop your plastic angle, it's stupid.

PS, you're wrong yet again from a comics standpoint too:
http://imageshack.us/f/174/journeyintomystery10910lw1.jpg/

Thor punches Magneto's head off his shoulders.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Thor punches Magneto's head off his shoulders.

While Thor could kill Magneto with one hit, he has to be able to move first to do so,'can't do that when he's trapped in his armor and being crushed, likely shitting himself.

So sad that you have to bring a comic scan to the battle. One from the 60's at the very least.

Once again you admitted yourself that the hammer can comprise Magneto's manipulations. Why? Enchantments? It looks metal but it ain't.

It's a construct. Just like the armor.

-Thor and Mags look at each other.
-Thor throws hammer while hitting the sky.
-Mags tries to stop hammer.
-He can't.
-Gets smashed through the skull.

Or

-Thor and Mags look at each other.
-Thor throws hammer.
-Mags tries to clench Thor's enchanted armor shards.
-Mags gets smashed through the head.

Either way game over for the old man who looks very fragile in his old age. And can't dodge crap.

Originally posted by the ninjak
So sad that you have to bring a comic scan to the battle. One from the 60's at the very least.

Once again you admitted yourself that the hammer can comprise Magneto's manipulations. Why? Enchantments? It looks metal but it ain't.

It's a construct. Just like the armor.

-Thor and Mags look at each other.
-Thor throws hammer while hitting the sky.
-Mags tries to stop hammer.
-He can't.
-Gets smashed through the skull.

Or

-Thor and Mags look at each other.
-Thor throws hammer.
-Mags tries to clench Thor's enchanted armor shards.
-Mags gets smashed through the head.

Either way game over for the old man who looks very fragile in his old age. And can't dodge crap.

So sad of me? You were the one trying to use comic angles, which you were wrong with, comic-book Magneto can affect mjolnir(uru). Just deal with it.

Odin specifically said some facts about the hammer, this is why it may or may not be out of Magneto's magnetism. Only the worthy may wield. Is Magneto worthy? I doubt it, he's a villain.

So, the armor? Where in the movie does it indicate that it's resistant to magnetic fields? Stop dodging.

That old man can output more power than Thor on film. I've yet to see Thor tear out and move the Golden Gate Bridge.

If this fight is on the bridge which the OP gives me the impression. Whats to stop Magneto from strangling Thor to death with the cables or wrapping him up with a car or two and squeezing. By feats Eric has the faster reaction time.

You are the one using the comic feats???

I can argue all day. Show me feats of Mags manipulating an element of magical origin. And if you want show me a comic feat of Magneto manipulating Thor's person. that scan you showed showcased Mag's ability to make forcefield abilities beyond just manipulating metal. A feat the film version never had.

Originally posted by McNasty996
If this fight is on the bridge which the OP gives me the impression. Whats to stop Magneto from strangling Thor to death with the cables or wrapping him up with a car or two and squeezing. By feats Eric has the faster reaction time.

Thor hits the sky as fast as he dodged the Destroyer's beam. Game over. Mag's Statue of Liberty feats were impressive but limited to his sight in such a small room. Thor flies fast and has perfect combat feats while in that phase of battle.

Originally posted by the ninjak
You are the one using the comic feats???

I can argue all day. Show me feats of Mags manipulating an element of magical origin. And if you want show me a comic feat of Magneto manipulating Thor's person. that scan you showed showcased Mag's ability to make forcefield abilities beyond just manipulating metal. A feat the film version never had.

You're the one that alluded to the comics in your initial argument and you were proved to be wrong from a comic standpoint too. Just deal and move on. K?

You can fanboy all day more like. Again, Thor's armor by all appearances is metal; this is what Magneto affects, be it brass, steel or fictional metals such as adamantium. The burden to show that Thor's metal armor is somehow not affected by a magnetic field is on you.

So do that with a scene or quote from the film, or just drop your nonsense argument, don't care either way.

No. You used comic feats. I didn't

It may look like metal but it's mystical. Uru. It's Odin's legacy. It appeared out of thin air.

You show a feat of Mags manipulating magical based elements. Or as I said before Mags manipulating Thor's form - hammer with magnetism in a comic since you showed the hammer feat.

I can run this circle as long as you can.

Why don't you address my earlier comment.
The 2 battle scernarios.

Originally posted by the ninjak
No. You used comic feats. I didn't

It may look like metal but it's mystical. Uru. It's Odin's legacy. It appeared out of thin air.

You show a feat of Mags manipulating magical based elements. Or as I said before Mags manipulating Thor's form - hammer with magnetism in a comic since you showed the hammer feat.

Hahaha, what a troll. You're the one that used the description of Uru from the comics to say Thor's gear wasn't metal. You did this, not me. Deal that your were wrong in the comics too, it's okay.

You don't know what legacy means, we covered this. Anyhow, how does "appearing out of thin air" negate it being affected by a magnetic field? It doesn't.

Thor's armor in the film looks like metal, burden is on you. Not that you will, cos you can't. You can only fanboy-argue.

Edit: In regards to your edit, your "Thor throws Mjolnir" was already countered. Thor has to be able to move; he won't be able to a moment after the battle starts, Magneto need only think to lock Thor down in his own armor.

Lol

1. Your comic feat featured a comic based Magneto who could use an ability he can't use on film. He can't do to the hammer in film what he did in that comic. Your Edit comment has been crushed.

2. That very same feat showed Thor easily breaking through his crushing metal manipulation like it was nothing but paper.

3. You still haven't proved that the element that encases Thor is metal but just "looks" metal. It's enchanted with hundreds if not thousands of years of protective enchantments. Hell! Even Ironman can negate Mag's manipulation due to anti-magnetism fields. And Thor's enchantments defy Stark's tech. But that's comics. If you wanna go down that road.

4. Thor can create EMP like bursts around the surrounding area. What Magneto can't see he can't manipulate + the effect giving the old man a stroke.

Still being a moron are we? You tried the comic angle; it failed. Let it go.

Your argument over Thor's armor is a No Limit Fallacy. Pretty much can say it can do anything. It can make chocolate bunnies and such, unless you prove it can't.

Thor's armor looks like metal, so that's what we go with, unless something in the film specifically said or shown differs. You have no argument, only dodging and clown tactics. The burden that it isn't metal and/or resistant to magnetism is on you. Not that you will.

You're RJ reborn and debating against a fanboy is futile.

So now you can't argue that your precious scan was pointless therefore your hammer deflecting point is also pointless.

You're the one who showed a comic scan to defend your point. Not me, so you're just bashing yourself now.

Movie Feat-
1. Thor creating an Emp blast that smashed Loki back on the bridge.
Would blast Mag's head in. Plus eliminate Thor from Mag's vision/manipulation.

2. Ground Pound attack on the Frost Giants.
Once again Magneto has no resistance. The force alone would disorientate him. Plus the raising ground would eliminate Thor from Mag's vision.

3. Hitting the air instantly after resurrection.
Thor can fly fast! Mags can't effect what he can't see.

4. Hammer Throw.
Mags ain't stopping it. Nor is he nimble enough in the films to avoid it. And once it's thrown it ain't stopping.

Mags in the film is such weaksauce. And you shouldn't have shown a comic feat to defend your point.

Originally posted by the ninjak
So now you can't argue that your precious scan was pointless therefore your hammer deflecting point is also pointless.

You're the one who showed a comic scan to defend your point. Not me, so you're just bashing yourself now.

Movie Feat-
1. Thor creating an Emp blast that smashed Loki back on the bridge.
Would blast Mag's head in. Plus eliminate Thor from Mag's vision/manipulation.

2. Ground Pound attack on the Frost Giants.
Once again Magneto has no resistance. The force alone would disorientate him. Plus the raising ground would eliminate Thor from Mag's vision.

3. Hitting the air instantly after resurrection.
Thor can fly fast! Mags can't effect what he can't see.

4. Hammer Throw.
Mags ain't stopping it. Nor is he nimble enough in the films to avoid it. And once it's thrown it ain't stopping.

Mags in the film is such weaksauce. And you shouldn't have shown a comic feat to defend your point.

Considering you brought in comic book material with describing Uru and my argument has never been about Magneto deflecting Mjolnir, no, what I said, you're being a moron and a clown-shoe.

Awesome, Thor has powerful attacks; you've yet to counter how he will attack considering he'll be locked-down in his own armor. (This is my argument from the start.)

"Mags is weaksauce" isn't a valid counter argument, just an FYI. LoL, more lies. Those scans had nothing to do with my argument, they were to show you didn't know shit about comic-Thor either.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you brought in comic book material with describing Uru and my argument has never been about Magneto deflecting Mjolnir, no, what I said, you're being a moron and a clown-shoe.

Awesome, Thor has powerful attacks; you've yet to counter how he will attack considering he'll be locked-down in his own armor.

"Mags is weaksauce" isn't a valid counter argument, just an FYI.

Uru is just an explanation of the enchanted element. You showed a freakin old comic and used it in defence.

And Mags supposedly locking Thor down won't do crap when the feats I showed disorientate him.
God! I showed 4 of them. Mags raises his hand isn't faster than Thor performing the feats I mentioned. And my 4 feats all screw him good.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Uru is just an explanation of the enchanted element. You showed a freakin old comic and used it in defence.

And Mags supposedly locking Thor down won't do crap when the feats I showed disorientate him.

God! I showed 4 of them. Mags raises his hand isn't faster than Thor performing the feats I mentioned. And my 4 feats all screw him good.

And you used a comic-book explanation as some means to say Thor's armor isn't metal, genius. Why I showed you the scans to prove that even in the comics Magneto can affect Thor's gear.

Magneto need only look at Thor and think. Faster than anything Thor can accomplish. Fight starts; Thor is locked-down, that fast.

Magneto doesn't have to raise his hand to use his powers. In X1 when he takes away all the guns from the cops and cocks them, he just looked and smiled; slightly dipped his head.

-Against a guy who created an EMP burst to the surrounding area just cause he was angered.

-Can throw a hammer in a heartbeat.

-Flew out of the way of a disintegration beam in a second suddenly after his resurrection. And can fly at speeds that Magnetos old scrawny ass would barely be able to turn his head around fast enough to comprehend the next blast.

This is stupid... Magneto crushes Thor like a fly.

I also find it funny how Magneto is fast enough too use his powers on Smallville Clark but Thor outspeeds Mags before he can react...

Smallville Clark pawns Magneto.

Clark would rape pretty much any mutant from the movies.