Originally posted by Sundipped
Mordru also had problems with Dr.Fate and Shazam who were both murdered by hostless Spectre who could only be matched by Captain Marvel. So it's DOV CM>Mordru.
Mordru beat SHAZAM in ROE and owned Dr. Fate.
Don't knock Fate, because in the past he has defeated Spectre as well.
Originally posted by CogitoDon't be to sure of that. Mordru while technically being a Lord of Chaos is only that on the writers simply stating that despite the fact that his character is a bit beyond that. It's a given that he will be the last one standing after consuming the Lords of Order and Chaos. Also he's kind of a universal mystery in my book he has no beginning or end and doesn't rational of a Lord of Order but at the same time his goals don't fully fall in line with the Lords of Chaos as well. He's a bit of an anomaly beyond his immortality in that his power always seems to be a bit of a +1 over everything not exploiting his claustrophobia.
Close fight. I think Spectre, and by proxy CM, was meant to be better than any of the Lords of Order/Chaos, including Mordru.So, I gotta go with Billy
Originally posted by Uriel005
Don't be to sure of that. Mordru while technically being a Lord of Chaos is only that on a technicality. It's a given that he will be the last one standing after consuming the Lords of Order and Chaos. Also he's kind of a universal mystery in my book he has no beginning or end and doesn't rational of a Lord of Order but at the same time his goals don't fully fall in line with the Lords of Chaos as well. He's a bit of an anomaly beyond his immortality in that his power always seems to be a bit of a +1 over everything not exploiting his claustrophobia.
All true. It still seemed to me that Spectre was supposed to be greater.
Originally posted by CogitoI dunno Mordru always just seemed to be that one dick who's got an infinite reservoir of power that he doesn't use just to troll everyone when they realize that outside of an exploit they never seem to be able to outpower him no matter how many upgrades/party members join the fight.
All true. It still seemed to me that Spectre was supposed to be greater.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Mordru got imprisoned in ROE by Fate. Shazam had to turn around and fight Spectre right after Mordru he wasn't necessarily defeated.
Eventually, yes, but Hector eventually became as powerful as the 1st Fate. Who went toe to toe with Spectre on a few occasions. I don't know who would win this fight, but I think Mordru can win a few fights.
Originally posted by Juntaimaybe earlier in JSA spectre but as time went on he really did start to outpace Nabu and Shazam. IDK Mordru feats just seem more impressive to me and then there's the fact that it's basically a given he will be last man standing in the fight between order/chaos based on his capabilities to absorb/inability to die... ever. His origins are beyond the universe and his end is beyond entropy of everything. He's got a nasty habit of absorbing intangible forces and the power of others even when the power he's trying to take is completely ridiculous... If the fight goes on long enough I see Marvel getting drained.
Powered up Captain Marvel > Mordru = Nabu, roughly.
Spectre also > Mordru = Nabu, roughly.