Originally posted by cdtm
So Thor's more durable than Galactus? She once impaled him through his armor.
Of course not, but he doesn't need to be to beat Sue F'ing Storm.
Sue Storm never beat Galactus. Therefore, your question is irrelevant.
I hate to sound like a Sue hater. I'm really not, at all, but she's just not on Thor's level.
Originally posted by nimbus006
How about the fact that he can resist pressures (such as the gravity of a star or blackhole) much greater than anything Sue can do to his brain? Plus, Thor has shown resistence to TP before which is not exactly the same, but doesn't hurt my argument.
And he's also been harmed by much less. No one is saying Sue is more powerful or whatever, Sue just has a weird powerset that allows for an exemption.
Originally posted by dmills
And he's also been harmed by much less. No one is saying Sue is more powerful or whatever, Sue just has a weird powerset that allows for an exemption.
I'm not saying Sue can't harm Thor. I'm sure she can put a dent or two in him.
What I am saying is she can't beat him.
I believe Thor is resistent enough to her attacks that he can withstand them long enough to overcome her.
Originally posted by nimbus006
I'm not saying Sue can't harm Thor. I'm sure she can put a dent or two in him.What I am saying is she can't beat him.
I believe Thor is resistent enough to her attacks that he can withstand them long enough to overcome her.
But we're talking about a bloodlusted person that can manifest invisible spikes inside of a persons brain and lungs if she so desired. She has cheat powers not unlike Blink or Quake. Blink (exiles) without pis/cis could teleport peoples heads off, Quake can make hearts explode etc. It's not about tiers at that point but about powerset.
Originally posted by dmills
But we're talking about a bloodlusted person that can manifest invisible spikes inside of a persons brain and lungs if she so desired. She has cheat powers not unlike Blink or Quake. Blink (exiles) without pis/cis could teleport peoples heads off, Quake can make hearts explode etc. It's not about tiers at that point but about powerset.
I thought tiers were based on powerset, among other things. 😕
Anyway...
So in your opinion, a bloodlusted Sue Storm can beat Thor?
Originally posted by nimbus006
I thought tiers were based on powerset, among other things. 😕Anyway...
So in your opinion, a bloodlusted Sue Storm can beat Thor?
Some lower tiered characters have unique abilities that allow for them to swing much higher then their weight class under the right conditions. Iceman, Rogue, Exiles Blink, Sue etc. Digi mentioned this a while back.
Unless I see some evidence (and I mean more then just some psychobabble about asgardian physiology) that suggests that Thor's internal organs are not vulnerable to Sue's attacks, I'm going to have to say yes. This is a bloodlusted Sue, she's going to use her deadliest attacks to put him down.
On the other hand, if Thor knows that she is going for the kill then obviously that changes things up a little -yes, I'm leaving myself an out 😛
Originally posted by nimbus006
I'm not saying Sue can't harm Thor. I'm sure she can put a dent or two in him.What I am saying is she can't beat him.
I believe Thor is resistent enough to her attacks that he can withstand them long enough to overcome her.
Thor can't see the invisible, especially with Sue flying around very fast while invisible with her shield on.
A bubble in Thor's heart or brain should do the trick. Or a spike.
Lastly, levels and tiers has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with who would win a CIS off fight. Matches are sometimes like rock paper scissors. Character X can beat Y and Y and beat Z but Z can beat X. Thor can beat beings that CIS off Sue can't yet the same Sue can beat Thor.
Debating is a thinking man's game. Just saying since X is more powerful (or is in a higher level) then X always wins is not only lazy but shows bad logic.
Originally posted by Bentley
Thor can't beat Sue unless he beats her before an invisible spike goes through his head, she's strong enough to destroy or incapacitate Thor from the insides. Hulk could probably resist her and beat her though.
Imo the Hulk would go down even easier then Thor. I have a scan of antman entering his ear canal and spraying Adamantium shrapnel in his ear drum which aided in putting him down. I don't even want to imagine what Sue would be able to do to him with her constructs.
I know banner has the healing factor working for him, but I'd like to see him heal from having his brain ground up into hamburger meat.
Originally posted by dmills
Imo the Hulk would go down even easier then Thor. I have a scan of antman entering his ear canal and spraying Adamantium shrapnel in his ear drum which aided in putting him down. I don't even want to imagine what Sue would be able to do to him with her constructs.I know banner has the healing factor working for him, but I'd like to see him heal from having his brain ground up into hamburger meat.
One thing I've always wondered about Hulk, and healing factors in general:
Wouldn't just burying something in their brain and keeping it there incapacitate them indefinitely, like what happened to Claire in Heroes?
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can't see the invisible, especially with Sue flying around very fast while invisible with her shield on.A bubble in Thor's heart or brain should do the trick. Or a spike.
Lastly, levels and tiers has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with who would win a CIS off fight. Matches are sometimes like rock paper scissors. Character X can beat Y and Y and beat Z but Z can beat X. Thor can beat beings that CIS off Sue can't yet the same Sue can beat Thor.
Debating is a thinking man's game. Just saying since X is more powerful (or is in a higher level) then X always wins is not only lazy but shows bad logic.
🤨 Thor can see intangible objects or beings that are invisible, that's one of the hammer many powers and Thor's, CIS off Thor obliterates Sue! H! shut you still don't jknow what the hell you are talking about, once again.
Originally posted by the Darkone
🤨 Thor can see intangible objects or beings that are invisible, that's one of the hammer many powers and Thor's, CIS off Thor obliterates Sue! H! shut you still don't jknow what the hell you are talking about, once again.
When did the hammer let him see invisible beings? I've seen one scan of him being attacked by invisible demons or wraiths or something, and he reacted to it with an area lightning attack, but he still wasn't able to notice them until after they struck.
I can believe the hammer does have the power to reveal invisible beings, but not actively.. He'd need to know in advance there are invisible beings in the area, and invoke the hammers powers.
Originally posted by the Darkone
🤨 Thor can see intangible objects or beings that are invisible, that's one of the hammer many powers and Thor's, CIS off Thor obliterates Sue! H! shut you still don't jknow what the hell you are talking about, once again.
Even if he could see invisible beings, no proof yet, she can make his optic nerves invisible. Now he's completely blind.
Then create an invisible construct inside his body, let's say his head, and rapidly expand it. This would be the result :
Originally posted by h1a8
Lastly, levels and tiers has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with who would win a CIS off fight. Matches are sometimes like rock paper scissors. Character X can beat Y and Y and beat Z but Z can beat X. Thor can beat beings that CIS off Sue can't yet the same Sue can beat Thor.Debating is a thinking man's game. Just saying since X is more powerful (or is in a higher level) then X always wins is not only lazy but shows bad logic.
I never said anything about Thor beating her because he's in a higher tier. I don't give much attention to "tiers" that someone on KMC created. In fact, the first time I mentioned the word tiers was in my last post cuz mills brought it up.
Originally posted by nimbus006I'm sorry I was trying to quote someone else. Disregard my post to you.
I never said anything about Thor beating her because he's in a higher tier. I don't give much attention to "tiers" that someone on KMC created. In fact, the first time I mentioned the word tiers was in my last post cuz mills brought it up.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Yea, because if he knows it's end game for Sue. 😛
Let's say he does know (even though he doesn't in this thread). Then hypothetical how can Thor win
1. when in comics his enemy tried to kill him also and Thor still acted the same.
2. if Thor doesn't act in character (CIS is off for him too).
