Originally posted by dmills
Imo the Hulk would go down even easier then Thor. I have a scan of antman entering his ear canal and spraying Adamantium shrapnel in his ear drum which aided in putting him down. I don't even want to imagine what Sue would be able to do to him with her constructs.I know banner has the healing factor working for him, but I'd like to see him heal from having his brain ground up into hamburger meat.
Sue is good, but her shields aren't adamantium, she would spend her energy fighting Hulk's healing factor.
Mjolnir one shot kills her at far faster than light speeds killing her before she can act. That's assuming her attacks can even put Thor down.
Also:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatFF42.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatFF43.jpg
Thor was holding back by the way. Fighting the mind control and all.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mjolnir one shot kills her at far faster than light speeds killing her before she can act. That's assuming her attacks can even put Thor down.Also:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatFF42.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatFF43.jpgThor was holding back by the way. Fighting the mind control and all.
Those scans seem oldish Rage and Thor screaming "die" was him holding back?
Originally posted by zopzop
Those scans seem oldish Rage and Thor screaming "die" was him holding back?
So? Besides, even in modern continuity, Asgardian power > Fantastic Four:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/KillsThing.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/KillsThing2.jpg
The Puppet Master had him under his spell but Thor was fighting the control as the Thing pointed out:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsTheThing4-1.jpg
Just took a fresh look at the stips. She's the only one bloodlusted here and no mention is made about cis being on or off so yeah, she kills or mortally wounds most of these cats. I've seen nothing from any of them to suggest they'd withstand what she could do internally. Mags, Hal and Nova could possible cancel out her constructs with their shields, but who knows.
The chick stands a good chance of clearing if all of her opponents aren't out for blood as well or at least in the know that she's rabid.
To those that think Sue could kill Thor...
You guys are under the assumption that real world laws pertaining to the weaknesses of a beings internal organs apply here...they dont.
Thor has withstood Neutron Star levels of gravitational force which would simutaneously affect every single cell, organ, tissue in your body...and it didnt kill him...he withstood it and kept going.
If Thor can withstand the force of a Neutron Star, then he's withstanding Sue's deadly tactics...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
To those that think Sue could kill Thor...You guys are under the assumption that real world laws pertaining to the weaknesses of a beings internal organs apply here...they dont.
Thor has withstood Neutron Star levels of gravitational force which would simutaneously affect every single cell, organ, tissue in your body...and it didnt kill him...he withstood it and kept going.
If Thor can withstand the force of a Neutron Star, then he's withstanding Sue's deadly tactics...
What's that have to do with her creating a sphere in his head then rapidly expanding it, causing his head to explode? I would think that Thor wouldn't function the same sans head.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
To those that think Sue could kill Thor...You guys are under the assumption that real world laws pertaining to the weaknesses of a beings internal organs apply here...they dont.
Thor has withstood Neutron Star levels of gravitational force which would simutaneously affect every single cell, organ, tissue in your body...and it didnt kill him...he withstood it and kept going.
If Thor can withstand the force of a Neutron Star, then he's withstanding Sue's deadly tactics...
And he's also been taken out by much less, so do we ignore that in favor of the "neutron star" feat?
Originally posted by zopzop
What's that have to do with her creating a sphere in his head then rapidly expanding it, causing his head to explode? I would think that Thor wouldn't function the same sans head.
I believe the durability of his skull, organs, ect would not fail to Sues power; she'd attempt to destroy his brain and crack his skull, but it wouldnt work...
Yes, it makes no sense, but its comics...
Characters like Thor, Superman, and Thanos can withstand/survive attacks that they really shouldnt be able to just because they can...
Thor is a high powered Asgardian God; thats explanation enough (in the comicbook world) as to why she wouldnt be able to beat him in this fashion...
It reminds me of the situation in Blood and Thunder were Warlock attempted to shut down Thor with the Soul Gem...
Why did it fail!?
Because Thor is Asgardian; hes not mortal so he isnt subject to the same weaknesses as ordinary mortals are...
Anyway, I fully believe the same would apply here with Sue and Thor...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSue can do the spike thing inside Thor.
To those that think Sue could kill Thor...You guys are under the assumption that real world laws pertaining to the weaknesses of a beings internal organs apply here...they dont.
Thor has withstood Neutron Star levels of gravitational force which would simutaneously affect every single cell, organ, tissue in your body...and it didnt kill him...he withstood it and kept going.
If Thor can withstand the force of a Neutron Star, then he's withstanding Sue's deadly tactics...
First of all, sharp piercing damage is different than gravitational force withstanding, especially when Sue has feats against more durable beings like Galactus. Also the gravity of a neutron star is in the billions of tons for a 700lb being. Hulk and some others have feats in the billions of tons range yet can be cut by sufficient force and sufficient hardness of blade.
Originally posted by Bentley
Smashing his brains is impossible because he's asgardian? Not nearly the same thing. Thor gets a freepass against many soul related abilities (such as the Space Phantom replacement that worked even on Hulk), but physical attacks work on him as they would work in mortal beings.
Ok...answer this then:
Could Sue kill Odin in this same fashion?
What about pre "not allowed to die" Thanos; could he be killed like this?
I garantee that many would argue that it wouldnt work on these two simply because of their power level and their status; the fact that they are flesh and blood and thus should be just as vulnerable as Thor to being killed like this wouldnt matter...
I garantee that some here would use comicbook logic to resolve this issue; it would be argued that they couldnt be killed in such fashion simply because of who they are...
In closing, being one of the most powerful Asgardians as well as being the son of Marvels most powerful Skyfather, Thors status should be such that Sue Storm should not be capable of killing Thor with the bubble or spike in the brain tactic...
Cause him great pain? Sure....
Kill him? No way...not this guy who has tanked direct attacks from "merciless" Celestials and was durable enough to keep fighting.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sue can do the spike thing inside Thor.First of all, sharp piercing damage is different than gravitational force withstanding, especially when Sue has feats against more durable beings like Galactus. Also the gravity of a neutron star is in the billions of tons for a 700lb being. Hulk and some others have feats in the billions of tons range yet can be cut by sufficient force and sufficient hardness of blade.
Sure, she could use this tactic against him; the question is will it kill him...
I firmly believe that answer to this question is no...
