Who could beat Sue Storm?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ok...answer this then:

Could Sue kill Odin in this same fashion?

What about pre "not allowed to die" Thanos; could he be killed like this?

I garantee that many would argue that it wouldnt work on these two simply because of their power level and their status; the fact that they are flesh and blood and thus should be just as vulnerable as Thor to being killed like this wouldnt matter...

I garantee that some here would use comicbook logic to resolve this issue; it would be argued that they couldnt be killed in such fashion simply because of who they are...

In closing, being one of the most powerful Asgardians as well as being the son of Marvels most powerful Skyfather, Thors status should be such that Sue Storm should not be capable of killing Thor with the bubble or spike in the brain tactic...

Cause him great pain? Sure....

Kill him? No way...not this guy who has tanked direct attacks from "merciless" Celestials and was durable enough to keep fighting.

This is exactly the point I was trying to make earlier.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ok...answer this then:

Could Sue kill Odin in this same fashion?

What about pre "not allowed to die" Thanos; could he be killed like this?

I garantee that many would argue that it wouldnt work on these two simply because of their power level and their status; the fact that they are flesh and blood and thus should be just as vulnerable as Thor to being killed like this wouldnt matter...

I garantee that some here would use comicbook logic to resolve this issue; it would be argued that they couldnt be killed in such fashion simply because of who they are...

In closing, being one of the most powerful Asgardians as well as being the son of Marvels most powerful Skyfather, Thors status should be such that Sue Storm should not be capable of killing Thor with the bubble or spike in the brain tactic...

Cause him great pain? Sure....

Kill him? No way...not this guy who has tanked direct attacks from "merciless" Celestials and was durable enough to keep fighting.

👆 I concur!

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ok...answer this then:

Could Sue kill Odin in this same fashion?

What about pre "not allowed to die" Thanos; could he be killed like this?

I garantee that many would argue that it wouldnt work on these two simply because of their power level and their status; the fact that they are flesh and blood and thus should be just as vulnerable as Thor to being killed like this wouldnt matter...

I garantee that some here would use comicbook logic to resolve this issue; it would be argued that they couldnt be killed in such fashion simply because of who they are...

In closing, being one of the most powerful Asgardians as well as being the son of Marvels most powerful Skyfather, Thors status should be such that Sue Storm should not be capable of killing Thor with the bubble or spike in the brain tactic...

Cause him great pain? Sure....

Kill him? No way...not this guy who has tanked direct attacks from "merciless" Celestials and was durable enough to keep fighting.

First of all, energy blasts and physical attacks are two totally different things. Some beings can absorb, contain, direct, manipulate energy through their bodies. This helps in resisting energy blasts. A fire proof vest is not bulletproof. Thor is nowhere near cut proof or flesh tear proof (especially when concerning Sue). Sue has feats that show that she is capable of damaging Thor.

The reason it may not work on Odin is because:
1. Odin could stop her before she finishes.
2. Odin can possibly create force fields inside of himself to contain the bubble or spike.

Status has nothing to do with it.

Also, although resisting energy attacks proves nothing, Thor resisting Celestial attacks is PIS and shouldn't be used.

or the obvious answer being sue tearing a hole in a celestial being PIS, but nah, throwing out decades of thor feats is more logical.

you're a clown shoe

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

In closing, being one of the most powerful Asgardians as well as being the son of Marvels most powerful Skyfather, Thors status should be such that Sue Storm should not be capable of killing Thor with the bubble or spike in the brain tactic...

If Thor's "status" lets him tank an attack simply because he's too popular not to tank it, that's the very definition of PIS...

But that happens a lot in comics. Infinity Man should have literally torn Superman in half, but his fan favorite status made it look like an actual fight instead..

Originally posted by cdtm
If Thor's "status" lets him tank an attack simply because he's too popular not to tank it, that's the very definition of comicbook logic...

Fixed it for you...

There are several things in comicbooks that occur (or dont occur) that are illogical, but nonetheless are consistent themes in comicbooks; a character withstanding attacks that they shouldnt be able to based solely on status and power level is one of them...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Fixed it for you...

There are several things in comicbooks that occur (or dont occur) that are illogical, but nonetheless are consistent themes in comicbooks; a character withstanding attacks that they shouldnt be able to based solely on status and power level is one of them...

False. If not then we would reach contradictions. For instance, Thor would be as powerful as Odin or a 2000ft Destroyer animated by multiple skyfathers (which he is not).

We have the no PIS rule for a reason. You only troll when you ignore the fact that it exists.

Originally posted by h1a8
False. If not then we would reach contradictions. For instance, Thor would be as powerful as Odin or a 2000ft Destroyer animated by multiple skyfathers (which he is not).

We have the no PIS rule for a reason. You only troll when you ignore the fact that it exists.

Before I rip your argument apart with actual examples, are you saying that characters withstanding attacks that logic dictates that they should not be able to (based on power level and status) is not a consistent theme in comics!?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Before I rip your argument apart with actual examples, are you saying that characters withstanding attacks that logic dictates that they should not be able to (based on power level and status) is not a [b]consistent theme in comics!? [/B]

What determines whether a character should do certain things? Is it because it would lead to heavy contradictions if they can?

It is easy to determine whether a feat is PIS or not. Thor, SS, Superman, etc. all have some hella top feats, but those which are PIS is only because they would lead to heavy contradictions.

SS destroying a planet is a giant feat for him and is bordering on PIS. But it isn't PIS since there are no major contradictions to it.
Superman moving planets have no major contradictions either.
Thor lifting Midgard Serpent have no major contradictions either.
Thor taking blasts that bested a 2000 ft Destroyer with Odin's own power
is PIS as it would lead to the conclusion that Thor>=Odin (which is a heavy contradiction). Spidey beating firelord is PIS as it would lead to the conclusion that Spidey (when serious) is herald level (which is a major contradiction).

Lastly, PIS IS NOT A CONSISTENT THEME IN COMICS. Otherwise it wouldn't be PIS by nature.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Fixed it for you...

There are several things in comicbooks that occur (or dont occur) that are illogical, but nonetheless are consistent themes in comicbooks; a character withstanding attacks that they shouldnt be able to based solely on status and power level is one of them...

That's why I love Thunderbolts..

Quicksilver pwning Mr. X, Speed Demon taking down Spidey with ease, Iron Man and Captain America getting pwned.. That's one comic that basically gives the middle finger to fan favoritism and keeps PIS to a minimum.

But yeah, no way is Thor tanking an attack from the inside out that cut through Big G and a Celestials physical body..