Originally posted by RobtardI haven't reversed anything.
LoL, nice reversal. You make claims about Sauron that have absolutely no screen-proof and then demand they be disproved or it's true.Maybe you should watch the intro to LoTR, Galadriel explains it. Or read the books, that would help you too. The nine rings empowered them; made them immortal and invisible, two things they are in the films. Sauron used the one ring to dominate them.
The rings were also due to Sauron's plan and came because of him to rule the others and subvert them through his power.
Did the Witch King make his own ring ? 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I haven't reversed anything.The rings were also due to Sauron's plan and came because of him to rule the others and subvert them through his power.
Did the Witch King make his own ring ? 🙂
Incorrect.
That's not really in question. Watch the intro to LoTR already.
No and that has no bearing to the immediate topic. The nine were mortals before they donned the rings.
Originally posted by RobtardYou are a false prophet. I have numerous times.
Incorrect.That's not really in question. Watch the intro to LoTR already.
No and that has no bearing to the immediate topic. The nine were mortals before they donned the rings.
The nine were all tricked by Sauron's power into serving him unknowingly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are a false prophet. I have numerous times.The nine were all tricked by Sauron's power into serving him unknowingly.
More hurtfulness out of your side. Incorrect, zero times.
Yeah, that's not in contention either and not the immediate topic of debate. Please, watch the intro to LoTR.
Originally posted by RobtardThe ring gave them the strength to govern each of the races. Sauron forged each ring and thus the men were bound by his power to serve as his Nazgul.
More hurtfulness out of your side. Incorrect, zero times.Yeah, that's not in contention either and not the immediate topic of debate. Please, watch the intro to LoTR.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
[B]There's no evidence to support that Blax.
There's no evidence to support either of our claims. That's why speculation is a waste of time.
Saurons power is a constantly feared thing, his presence in the movies and the characters reaction to him is all the proof required to support the theory.
That's not proof, that's speculation. It doesn't state anywhere in the movies that that's the reason they feared him. All you have is your interpretation of the films, and I have mine.
But even in speculatory terms, you're wrong. You already conceded that ultimately Sauron as an eye was not a huge threat. You also admitted that ultimately Aragorn knew that he would lose the fight at the Black Gate.
So if Sauron as an eye was not a huge threat, then why would Aragorn sacrifice himself and his entire army so that Frodo could destroy the ring, destroying Sauron and only Sauron? You realize that with Aragorn and the entirety of the Rohan/Gondor army obliterated, that would leave Rohan and Gondor completely defenseless against Sauron's army. Even with Sauron out of the picture permanently, Gondor/Rohan wouldn't have a chance.
You were criticizing me earlier, saying I don't know anything about tactics, so answer me this. Does sacrificing your entire army and leaving your home base defenseless against an army you know you can't defeat, for the sake of destroying an eye, sound like good tactical sense to you?
If you say yes, you're either lying or incredibly silly.
Regular old sword...You really didn't watch the movies at all.
Maybe you should listen to the dialogue as opposed to watching the movies muted and touching yourself whenever gollum is on screen 😛
"The skill of the elves can reforge the sword of kings but only you have the power to wield it" - Elrond
"I do not want that power, I have never wanted it" - AragornIf you think it's a 'regular old sword' that come on. Tell me how exactly such a mundane blade was able to deflect the sword of the dead.
Lol, i'm sorry but what's the proof you have Sauron is slow. His only showing was walking to the front line, then striding through the enemy as he decimated them.
Snape can teleport and fly. Running won't help Sauron.
And if as you say CIS is automatically turned off, forget him exposing the ring so easily. As clearly that is the greatest moment of CIS in the whole of the LoTR trilogy
He'll blow his head off with spells.
And that's ridiculous. Snape lacks feats for the reactive speed and swiftness to deal with mass people charging while being shot at. Even if orcs are a crap shot, there's nothing backing up that he'd spot and be able to react to it all.
Snape can fly... while casting spells.
And teleport. They're not touching him.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That's not proof, that's speculation. It doesn't state anywhere in the movies that that's the reason they feared him. All you have is your interpretation of the films, and I have mine.But even in speculatory terms, you're wrong. You already conceded that ultimately Sauron as an eye was not a huge threat. You also admitted that ultimately Aragorn knew that he would lose the fight at the Black Gate.
So if Sauron as an eye was not a huge threat, then why would Aragorn sacrifice himself and his entire army so that Frodo could destroy the ring, destroying Sauron and only Sauron? You realize that with Aragorn and the entirety of the Rohan/Gondor army obliterated, that would leave Rohan and Gondor completely defenseless against Sauron's army. Even with Sauron out of the picture permanently, Gondor/Rohan wouldn't have a chance.
You were criticizing me earlier, saying I don't know anything about tactics, so answer me this. Does sacrificing your entire army and leaving your home base defenseless against an army you know you can't defeat, for the sake of destroying an eye, sound like good tactical sense to you?
If you say yes, you're either lying or incredibly silly.
See...all logic points to him exerting some sort of control over those armies. 😄
WEEEE!
And it would obviously have to be magical. WEEEEE!
See, if everyone would just listen to me from days ago, we would not be having these discussion. 😄
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well obviously. I mean, its not like the entire Orc race was created by him or anything.Nope, must be magical control. 🙄
Well..since we know for a fact that Sauron and spell-enslaved his forces, we know exactly what happened:
"...the creatures of Sauron, orc or troll or beast spell-enslaved, ran hither and thither mindless..."
Why are they now "mindless"? Oh, that's right: their overmind no longer controlled their direction with his thoughts.
This did not translate very clearly in the movies, though. 😄
Yup: he was using a weak form of the imperius curse. 😄