Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by quanchi112112 pages

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It is because Im objective that Im not swayed by that.
The directors statements on the character are objective yours are not.

What exactly are you claiming you heard the director say on the Bluray of RoF that you don't own?

Originally posted by Robtard
What exactly are you claiming you heard the director say on the Bluray of RoF that you don't own?
I took a screenshot of the blu ray along with other movies you said I didn't own. The director said Zan was the boogeyman for hunting dragons aka awesome at it. Sadako believes the directors aim was to portray Zan as an ineffectual dragon hunter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I took a screenshot of the blu ray along with other movies you said I didn't own. The director said Zan was the boogeyman for hunting dragons aka awesome at it. Sadako believes the directors aim was to portray Zan as an ineffectual dragon hunter.

You posted some crappy quality picture which proved nothing 🙂

Screen feats > your wankings 🙂

Van Zan's entire dragon killing feats consist of pulling a trigger after Quinn saves the day cos Van Zan fumbled as a commander.

All this time and you still haven't figured out that Quinn was the hero of RoF, albeit a reluctant one and Van Zan is just a poor man's Ahab.

Originally posted by Robtard
You posted some crappy quality picture which proved nothing 🙂

Screen feats > your wankings 🙂

Van Zan's entire dragon killing feats consist of pulling a trigger after Quinn saves the day cos Van Zan fumbled as a commander.

All this time and you still haven't figured out that Quinn was the hero of RoF, albeit a reluctant one and Van Zan is just a poor man's Ahab.

I cited screen feats. He acted like Zan sucked at hunting dragons which is inaccurate and biased.

What we see is him killing a dragon. That's awesome.

Quinn was the survivor whereas Zan was the boogeyman to dragons.

So does Van Zan go away if a dragon puts a blanket over its head?

(I'm sorry, but a "bogeyman" is a childhood fear that is ultimately harmless. It's a monster in the closet or under the bed, that scares children but never hurts them.)

Originally posted by The Scenario
So does Van Zan go away if a dragon puts a blanket over its head?

(I'm sorry, but a "bogeyman" is a childhood fear that is ultimately harmless. It's a monster in the closet or under the bed, that scares children but never hurts them.)

I am sorry you are wrong because this is the actual word the director used to describe Zan in the film here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cited screen feats. He acted like Zan sucked at hunting dragons which is inaccurate and biased.

What we see is him killing a dragon. That's awesome.

Quinn was the survivor whereas Zan was the boogeyman to dragons.

Screen feats shows us Van Zan fumbling and then Quinn saving the day and his ass.

What we see is Van Zan being rescued by Quinn and then pulling a trigger after Quinn does all the dangerous work.

You're a clown who didn't understand the film.

Originally posted by Robtard
Screen feats shows us Van Zan fumbling and then Quinn saving the day and his ass.

What we see is Van Zan being rescued by Quinn and then pulling a trigger after Quinn does all the dangerous work.

You're a clown who didn't understand the film.

Zan killed a dragon and jumped at one showing a fearlessness Quinn will never possess.

I am actually citing the directors comments. I am being objective as always.

Zan was their boogeyman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am sorry you are wrong because this is the actual word the director used to describe Zan in the film here.

I know, that's why it's funny. The director calls Van Zan a bogeyman, and bogeymen are harmless, traditionally only scaring children.

So yeah, it's funny that you support Van Zan being a bogeyman.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I know, that's why it's funny. The director calls Van Zan a bogeyman, and bogeymen are harmless, traditionally only scaring children.

So yeah, it's funny that you support Van Zan being a bogeyman.

The point was dragons fear him. That's pretty incredible. I have no choice but to support the director anyway since its a fact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zan killed a dragon and jumped at one showing a fearlessness Quinn will never possess.

I am actually citing the directors comments. I am being objective as always.

Zan was their boogeyman.

Fact: Quinn put himself directly in danger to rescue Van Zan's failure at commanding.

Fact: Van Zan killed a dragon solely because of Quinn's actions.

Fact: Quinn faced down and killed the biggest and most powerful dragon.

Still haven't figured out the film, what a clown.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: Quinn put himself directly in danger to rescue Van Zan's failure at commanding.

Fact: Van Zan killed a dragon because of Quinn's actions.

Fact: Quinn faced down and killed the biggest and most powerful dragon.

Still haven't figured out the film, what a clown.

False.

Zan told Quinn what to do so he could kill it.

Quinn did so through Zan's leadership and his experience. Quinn also got lucky.

Zan was the seasoned dragon hunter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False.

Zan told Quinn what to do so he could kill it.

Quinn did so through Zan's leadership and his experience. Quinn also got lucky.

Zan was the seasoned dragon hunter.

Making yourself dragon bait in order to save others is in fact "dangerous", dumbass.

Quinn did all the work besides pulling a trigger.

Wrong. Quinn was the defacto leader after Van Zan got the majority of his men killed, the castle sacked and Quinn's people burned.

Who failed at every turn we saw. Read: Poor man's Ahab.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point was dragons fear him. That's pretty incredible. I have no choice but to support the director anyway since its a fact.

Sure the one that ate him at the end looked like it was absolutely, completely, comprehensively and totally shitting itself.

Originally posted by Robtard
Making yourself dragon bait in order to save others is in fact "dangerous", dumbass.

Quinn did all the work besides pulling a trigger.

Wrong. Quinn was the defacto leader after Van Zan got the majority of his men killed, the castle sacked and Quinn's people burned.

Who failed at every turn we saw. Read: Poor man's Ahab.

It was not Zan's failure at commanding it was his crew not fulfilling their duties.

Quinn filled in and Zan killed the dragon. Boom.

What rules of Zan's did he break pray tell ?

You can't blame Zan for everything.

Zan killed over two hundred dragons. Quit lying.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Sure the one that ate him at the end looked like it was absolutely, completely, comprehensively and totally shitting itself.
Z no sure was not. You're arguing with the director, biased boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was not Zan's failure at commanding it was his crew not fulfilling their duties.

Quinn filled in and Zan killed the dragon. Boom.

What rules of Zan's did he break pray tell ?

You can't blame Zan for everything.

Zan killed over two hundred dragons. Quit lying.

You're a coward shifting the blame. After Van Zan idiotically goes against his good tactical intel and gets the majority of his people burned, the castle sacked and many of Quinn's people roasted, he [finally] takes responsibility for being a dunce. /fact

Correction: Quinn picked up the pieces and rescued Van Zan's failure. /fact

What the **** are you talking about with "rules". Another non sequitur from you trying to distract that after Van Zan's stacked blunders, he became submissive to Quinn. /fact

Movie feats > your wankings, fascinations and misrepresenting director comments, thinking Van Zan solo'd 200 dragons, up until he got his men killed, he had a crew with him hunting dragons. Stop wanking 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
You're a coward shifting the blame. After Van Zan idiotically goes against his good tactical intel and gets the majority of his people burned, the castle sacked and many of Quinn's people roasted, he [finally] takes responsibility for being a dunce. /fact

Correction: Quinn picked up the pieces and rescued Van Zan's failure. /fact

What the **** are you talking about with "rules". Another non sequitur from you trying to distract that after Van Zan's stacked blunders, he became submissive to Quinn. /fact

Movie feats > your wankings, fascinations and misrepresenting director comments, thinking Van Zan solo'd 200 dragons, up until he got his men killed, he had a crew with him hunting dragons. Stop wanking 🙂

The dragon attacked them due to the fact the path was blocked. Watch the movie for a change.

Quinn was scared unlike Zan at any point in the film. Quinn was lucky. Zan led them after they got inside London. Watch the film.

Zan killed 200 dragons. I never said he solo'd.

The entire planet was almost wiped out so men were sure to die, kiddo.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're a coward shifting the blame. After Van Zan idiotically goes against his good tactical intel and gets the majority of his people burned, the castle sacked and many of Quinn's people roasted, he [finally] takes responsibility for being a dunce. /fact

Correction: Quinn picked up the pieces and rescued Van Zan's failure. /fact

What the **** are you talking about with "rules". Another non sequitur from you trying to distract that after Van Zan's stacked blunders, he became submissive to Quinn. /fact

Movie feats > your wankings, fascinations and misrepresenting director comments, thinking Van Zan solo'd 200 dragons, up until he got his men killed, he had a crew with him hunting dragons. Stop wanking 🙂

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