Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Sadako of Girth112 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're saying the film wanted to portray him as a liar/ineffective coward. You couldn't be any more ridiculous.

He did kill one on the screen, sissiko.

Right cause...movies...erm....actually think, in your world...? 😕 (What am I not surprised?)
Well regardless of intention, it did it anyway.

Oh he did? lol Alone? lol By himself? lol
Feats vid or STFU with the horseshit.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Right cause...movies...erm....actually think, in your world...? 😕 (What am I not surprised?)
Well regardless of intention, it did it anyway.

Oh he did? lol Alone? lol By himself? lol
Feats vid or STFU with the horseshit.

I never said he did it alone. But he did kill one.

McClane got crushed in Die Hard two on the wing of the plane. Embarrassing.

van zan has zero feats.

your insistence on bumping this topic highlights your stupidity, obstinance, and inability to reason.

you are a joke and everyone here knows it but you.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
van zan has zero feats.

your insistence on bumping this topic highlights your stupidity, obstinance, and inability to reason.

you are a joke and everyone here knows it but you.

Zan killed a dragon. Thats a feat, Bridget.

Zan also easily tanked Quinn's attacks and had to be pulled off him. McClane was crushed on the wing of a plane in his prime in Die Hard two. 😂

Van Zan killed no one. The harpoon type projectile did.

McClane was never crushed.
Oh the plane he killed along with it's crew of marines just after...?
😉

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Van Zan killed no one. The harpoon type projectile did.

McClane was never crushed.
Oh the plane he killed along with it's crew of marines just after...?
😉

That is him killing them. What kind of weirdo logic is this ? I guess if someone stabs someone they didn't do it the knife did. 😂

McClane lost the man to man fight and lit the gasoline. Weak man.

Still spreading those same lies and wanking Van Zan. You're such a coward.

His entire "dragon killing" feats include letting other people do all the work and putting themselves in direct danger while he sits back and pulls a trigger after Quinn lines the dragon perfectly up for him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Still spreading those same lies and wanking Van Zan. You're such a coward.

It must be the influence of his wanksocks/role models.

(Khan/Van Zan - Both of which get others to die doing their killing)


His entire "dragon killing" feats include letting other people do all the work and putting themselves in direct danger while he sits back and pulls a trigger after Quinn lines the dragon perfectly up for him.

Exactamundo.

Originally posted by Robtard
Still spreading those same lies and wanking Van Zan. You're such a coward.

His entire "dragon killing" feats include letting other people do all the work and putting themselves in direct danger while he sits back and pulls a trigger after Quinn lines the dragon perfectly up for him.

It was a coordinated effort he himself actually pulled off. Most generals don't get to the front of the lines you ignorant poor thing.

Reality and Robbie have never met.

A delegated "effort".

IE one he couldn't pul off with getting a bunch of his men killed.
He pulled a trigger whilst they were getting wasted.

Call us back when you can produce a clip of him single handedly taking out dragons, maybe with a hatchet or something....

McClane solos shit himself.
Van Zan solos shitting himself and hiding behind others.
Fact.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
A delegated "effort".

IE one he couldn't pul off with getting a bunch of his men killed.
He pulled a trigger whilst they were getting wasted.

Call us back when you can produce a clip of him single handedly taking out dragons, maybe with a hatchet or something....

McClane solos shit himself.
Van Zan solos shitting himself and hiding behind others.
Fact.

Sorry, he did so through a coordinated effort whereas the general populace idea was to run from them. Zan was their boogeyman as stated by the director. Sorry, you don't grasp the obvious but don't assume the other intelligent types don't get it.

Coordinated effort= most of team dying, Quinn risking his life to improvise a victory, and Van Zan sitting on his lazy ass until the dragon was delivered to him on a silver platter

Originally posted by Lestov16
Coordinated effort= most of team dying, Quinn risking his life to improvise a victory, and Van Zan sitting on his lazy ass until the dragon was delivered to him on a silver platter
That is entirely incorrect. You have lost your way. Zan led and took the sucker down. In a war there are casualties.

Van Zan stood by while 80% of his team was killed, and only was able to harpoon after Quinn risked his life. And I guess Van Zan always gets 80% of his team killed on every hunt even though he's supposed to be an expert. I haven't lost my way. You've lost your sanity.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sorry, he did so through a coordinated effort whereas the general populace idea was to run from them. Zan was their boogeyman as stated by the director. Sorry, you don't grasp the obvious but don't assume the other intelligent types don't get it.

Yeah the boogeyman doesn't exist.
The boogeyman also in addition to not existing was ironically much better at not getting people killed than Van Zan.

Van Zan cowered and pulled a trigger. Thats the extent of his involvement in the sacrifice and real fighting the other did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was a coordinated effort he himself actually pulled off. Most generals don't get to the front of the lines you ignorant poor thing.

Reality and Robbie have never met.

Keep wanking Van Zan and misrepresenting the scenes, it doesn't matter, everyone already knows you're a dunce 🙂

Fact: Van Zan's initial plan utterly flopped. Quinn who wasn't part of it went out and saved the day by risking himself after "general" Van Zan failed and got his team killed.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yeah the boogeyman doesn't exist.
The boogeyman also in addition to not existing was ironically much better at not getting people killed than Van Zan.

Van Zan cowered and pulled a trigger. Thats the extent of his involvement in the sacrifice and real fighting the other did.

This one did in that movie. That's the point.

No, he killed the dragon. I mean later when he jumps at the dragon with no fear you judge him for that. You're biased. That's the problem.

Zan wins. Objectivity will prevail.

Briefly, before becoming Dragon poop because he was no good at fighting Dragons.

The harpoon killed the dragon.
The only time we saw Van Zan take on a dragon directly, he merely provided it with a posey, grunty snack. (doing humanity a big favour in not being around to keep getting it killed)

Yes, it will: Van Zan was useless, objectively speaking.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Briefly, before becoming Dragon poop because he was no good at fighting Dragons.

The harpoon killed the dragon.
The only time we saw Van Zan take on a dragon directly, he merely provided it with a posey, grunty snack. (doing humanity a big favour in not being around to keep getting it killed)

Yes, it will: Van Zan was useless, objectively speaking.

The director says otherwise proving you're biased and unable to be objective.

Butthurt.

It is because Im objective that Im not swayed by that.