Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane · Movie Versus Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Lestov16
alright. If you say so, you say so. Nothing much I can say about it there
No I'm not. Yes Zan was winning, and had he not been pulled off, he would have eventually beat Quinn down, but the fact that Quinn was so spry after the damage that Zan already inflicted says a lot about Zan's hitting power, which is the point I'm trying to make. If he couldn't put down Quinn with 5 hits to the face, 2 to the stomach, and a headbutt, what makes you think he will fare better against McClane, who has endured FAR worse damage from far more lethal opponents?

K.

It was a short fight I mean acting as if his neck shoul dhave been broken in 30 seconds is a bit much. McClane usually goes down and needs some angle to get back in it. He has to rely on hand to hand to hand only and won't have the luxury of Zan leaving his side like the woman.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was a Kentucky Irregular. I always knew this to be the case my friend.
Zan was winning so you're downplaying here.
Zan headbutts him after taking these attacks. Zan doesn't get up to spare him like the woman. Zan isn't pulled off therefore he finishes him off. If you've seen the movies you know he gets beat up a lot in each flick. You wanting me to rewatch the movies on something we both agree on is a waste of time. McClane kills them due to pis and being the hero which isn't the case in a versus thread.

His methods are sound and logical. He uses not PIS, but the environment he is in to kill most his opponents.
(Who are are ALL tougher and better fighters than Van Zan)
You wanna talk PIS when you're defending Reign of Fire?

LOLZ I say to you!!!! LOLLLLLLLZZZZZZZ

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by quanchi112
K.
It was a short fight I mean acting as if his neck shoul dhave been broken in 30 seconds is a bit much. McClane usually goes down and needs some angle to get back in it. He has to rely on hand to hand to hand only and won't have the luxury of Zan leaving his side like the woman.

Luxury hahahaah

He wouldnt need to worry AT ALL.

Its Van Zan...
..not some tough dude with feats and a decent record.

How many did he kill..onscreen...? McClane killed at least 58.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've seen them and remember him getting his butt kicked left and right. Lestov put up one of the most embarrassing clips he could in support of McClane. The girl is actually walking away from him it's that bad.

Yet you dodged every time Sadako asked you to show these "left and right butt-kickings", should be easy for a guy who has seen the films. You've blown your cover.

Watch Diehard 1-4; then debate. K?

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet you dodged every time Sadako asked you to show these "left and right butt-kickings", should be easy for a guy who has seen the films. You've blown your cover.
Watch Diehard 1-4; then debate. K?

+1

😮‍💨

Pre-SUV-suppository clean h2h knockout of said chick for the win.

A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
His methods are sound and logical. He uses not PIS, but the environment he is in to kill most his opponents.
(Who are are ALL tougher and better fighters than Van Zan)
You wanna talk PIS when you're defending Reign of Fire?
LOLZ I say to you!!!! LOLLLLLLLZZZZZZZ

The girl turned around and walked away from him. If that isn't pis you need to have a friend tell you what it is. Zan isn't leaving him alive.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Luxury hahahaah
He wouldnt need to worry AT ALL.
Its Van Zan...
..not some tough dude with feats and a decent record.
How many did he kill..onscreen...? McClane killed at least 58.

Zan wasn't hunting humans he was eradicating dragons which wiped the majority of humanity off the planet. Killing humans is something anyone can accomplish and with the pis McClane had in his own films isn't saving him here.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet you dodged every time Sadako asked you to show these "left and right butt-kickings", should be easy for a guy who has seen the films. You've blown your cover.
Watch Diehard 1-4; then debate. K?

Someone posted a woman easily disarming and owning him hand to hand. McClane only got the drop on her after she turned her back and he ripped her hair out.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Robtard

Watch Diehard 1-4; then debate. K?

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by quanchi112
McClane got the drop on her

Edited for relevancy highlighting.

BTW Dragons: The ultimate in PIS.

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's a man she's a woman what more proof do you need ?

Hahahahaha what an idiot.

Or just a blatant troll.

No one should be responding to you.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hahahahaha what an idiot.
Or just a blatant troll.
No one should be responding to you.

It's an obvious sarcastic post. Are you really this socially awkward or is this an act ?

Originally posted by Robtard

What would rewatching the movies do ?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Edited for relevancy highlighting.
BTW Dragons: The ultimate in PIS.

No, she clearly walked away after dominating him in which he seized the opportunity to rip out her hair, McClane style.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

She failed to KO him. All flash and gash, no smash.

He knocked her out she was totally at his mercy. McWin.

🙂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
She failed to KO him. All flash and gash, no smash.
He knocked her out she was totally at his mercy. McWin.
🙂

Because she walked away from him as a clean sign of disreapesct but she didn't realize McClane doesn't shy away from hair pulling.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

nope she was complacent and went back to making sure Matthew did his computer pwning of the eastern seaboard.

Not realising that it was McClane she had messed with rather than a ladyboy like Van Zan.

McClane was reambushed on Matthew's account too, when he went to save Matthew/aid him in UNpwning the eastern seaboard, she attacked him whilst distracted. A fatal mistake for her to make, as it turned out. Feel kinda embarrased having to explain this to you, but given that you clearly haven't even seen the movie, judging by your appraisal of it, I'll forgive myself.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
nope she was complacent and went back to making sure Matthew did his computer pwning of the eastern seaboard.
Not realising that it was McClane she had messed with rather than a ladyboy like Van Zan.
McClane was reambushed on Matthew's account too, when he went to save Matthew/aid him in UNpwning the eastern seaboard, she attacked him whilst distracted. A fatal mistake for her to make, as it turned out. Feel kinda embarrased having to explain this to you, but given that you clearly haven't even seen the movie, judging by your appraisal of it, I'll forgive myself.

You admit she forgot about him which cost her the fight. Nothing more needs to be said.

Zan wouldn't even register her shots and would stare off into the horizon seeing dragons that weren't there. At this moment he slaps her which breaks her jaw and screams, "I can waste no further time. It's time to kill dragons." She jumps up and screams, "Hell, yeah." She forgets her jaw is broken and dies from the pain.

At this moment a camera pans in and shows a McClane hiding under a garbage bag. After everyone leaves he rushes over and rips out her hair screaming and beating his chest.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Nope. Not forgot.

Got complacent about.

Underestimated him.

Just like you do constantly.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope. Not forgot.
Got complacent about.
Underestimated him.
Just like you do constantly.

It most certainly did. She was crushing him until she tried walking away and McClane ripped her hair out. In a die hard movie he will always survive this isn't a die hard movie which you seem to forget.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

She did not crush him by anystretch of the imagination.

Since when, btw is hair pulling not in H2H combat...? fighting isn't some la-de-dah poncey sport. Its a struggle of life over death. Or 1st to render the other KO'ed/unable to physically continue by all unarmed means possible.

McWin.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
She did not crush him by anystretch of the imagination.
Since when, btw is hair pulling not in H2H combat...? fighting isn't some la-de-dah poncey sport. Its a struggle of life over death. Or 1st to render the other KO'ed/unable to physically continue by all unarmed means possible.
McWin.

It's fair but it's kind of unmanly especially against a woman who just previously disarmed and threw you around a room. She walked away from him which changed the fight.

It's a Mcloss here.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

well she wasn't very ladylike. So fair play to McClane.

Nope. Its not. By anystretch of the imagination, unless you are 'McQuanchi'.

As Asian chick would have KILLED Van Zan.
And McClane would too.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
well she wasn't very ladylike. So fair play to McClane.
Nope. Its not. By anystretch of the imagination, unless you are 'McQuanchi'.
As Asian chick would have KILLED Van Zan.
And McClane would too.

One thing I will agree with you on is McClane was more ladylike than she was.

An asian chick throttled McClane and only when she turned her back on him because he was such a cream puff did he turn the tide.