Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Lestov16112 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
attacking an opponent in a combat situation. The movie made it clear he'd have killed him. He no sold a cheapshot punch. McClane probably doesn't even really phase him.

It's no argument that had the fight continued Zan would have eventually beat Quinn into unconsciousness, but the fact that Quinn no sold multiple punches to the face and stomach and a headbutt and came up not only barely scratched, but still vigorous says something about Zan's hitting power, which does have quite a bit of relevance in this fight

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Quinn being manhandled. I mean he a cheapshot didn't affect him so it's pretty clear how that fight was going to end.

Quinn was manhandled because he was both an average guy and Van Zan probably had 15 kilos on him. So Van Zan can take one punch from an average guy, hardly something to boast about.

Certainly not in the face of McDurability.

Originally posted by Lestov16
It's no argument that had the fight continued Zan would have eventually beat Quinn into unconsciousness, but the fact that Quinn no sold multiple punches to the face and stomach and a headbutt and came up not only barely scratched, but still vigorous says something about Zan's hitting power, which does have quite a bit of relevance in this fight
Or it says something about Quinn as an opponent. Ive always been a glass if half full kind of guy.
Originally posted by Robtard
Quinn was manhandled because he was both an average guy and Van Zan probably had 15 kilos on him. So Van Zan can take one punch from an average guy, hardly something to boast about.
There's nothing to suggest he's only slightly above average especially considering he defeats the alpha male dragon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Or it says something about Quinn as an opponent. Ive always been a glass if half full kind of guy. There's nothing to suggest he's only slightly above average especially considering he defeats the alpha male dragon.

Firing a crossbow has nothing to do with his street-fighting skills, clown.

This from a guy who berates or decries McClane for using his environment to settle fights quickly....

Robtard is right. No weapon McClane used was so pre-prepared pre-meditated and elaborate as that. His usual best weapon is improvisation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Firing a crossbow has nothing to do with his street-fighting skills, clown.
So anyone with a crossbow can defeat any dragon ? Come on hoss you are better than this.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
This from a guy who berates or decries McClane for using his environment to settle fights quickly....

Robtard is right. No weapon McClane used was so pre-prepared pre-meditated and elaborate as that. His usual best weapon is improvisation.

There's no room for improvisation here. There is no lucky weapon sitting around loaded for McClane to use.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So anyone with a crossbow can defeat any dragon ?

You could at least try to debate instead of using logical fallacy after logical fallacy, clown.

Firing a crossbow doesn't have anything to do with being good at street-fighting. Accept that your point failed and gracefully move on.

Originally posted by Robtard
You could at least try to debate instead of using logical fallacy after logical fallacy, clown.

Firing a crossbow doesn't have anything to do with being good at street-fighting. Accept that your point failed and gracefully move on.

I never said that it did but nothing in the movie has pointed in the general direction of him being average at anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said that it did but nothing in the movie has pointed in the general direction of him being average at anything.

Considering fighting skill is something that matters here, you indeed did imply that. Anyhow, your tactics grow tiresome.

If you would just bother to detach your lips from Van Zan's penis long enough to watch his fight with Quinn, you would see neither of them did anything particularly special above schoolyard scruffs. It was one bigger kid beating on the smaller for a bit and both being fine after.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering fighting skill is something that matters here, you indeed did imply that. Anyhow, your tactics grow tiresome.

If you would just bother to detach your lips from Van Zan's penis long enough to watch his fight with Quinn, you would see neither of them did anything particularly special above schoolyard scruffs. It was one bigger kid beating on the smaller for a bit and both being fine after.

It's a brief fight amongst two frustrated men who obviously respect each other. It was broken up very quickly so you assuming both men are weak isn't what the portrayal of either character is intended by them.

Hahahaaa. "respect each other", they had recently met, STFU and stop making shit up.

Screen showings > your Van Zan fantasies of the fight. Just try to remove your mouth from the Zan-penis, K?

Can somebody just post McClane's fight scenes so we can end this?

How is this thread still alive?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Can somebody just post McClane's fight scenes so we can end this?

People have done so a few times; it doesn't stop Quanchi ranting though.

Originally posted by Nephthys
How is this thread still alive?
I know, right?

Seriously guys, stop feeding him.

I can't help it. Boards have been somewhat boring since RJ left and Quan seems to be eager to fill the void so I'm letting him have at it. i'm sorry you guys are caught in the crossfire 😄

Originally posted by Robtard
Hahahaaa. "respect each other", they had recently met, STFU and stop making shit up.

Screen showings > your Van Zan fantasies of the fight. Just try to remove your mouth from the Zan-penis, K?

They did. Zan and he both disagreed but obviously respected each other. Zan was a man possessed and wasn't going to let anyone stop him in his quest to ride the world of the dragons. You put McClane in there and the same result occurs.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Can somebody just post McClane's fight scenes so we can end this?
I agree posting McClane being dominated ends this thread with Zan as the winner.

Sorry Quan, but the feats are not agreein with ya

Originally posted by Lestov16
Sorry Quan, but the feats are not agreein with ya
😂 😂 😂 😂

You posted a woman disarming and kicking his ass. Then the only way he comes out on top is he cheapshots her from behind after she tossed him all over the room. The funniest part is he tried shooting her during his fight. This fight absolutely proves McClane gets dominated. Thanks for the assist. 🙂