Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Sadako of Girth112 pages

Think whatever you like.

Van Zan: No feats, killed in 1st movie.

McClane: Die Hards 1-4.

Anyone of intelligence knows what that means.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Think whatever you like.

Van Zan: No feats, killed in 1st movie.

McClane: Die Hards 1-4.

Anyone of intelligence knows what that means.

Zan is 1-0 in hand to hand fights without needing a gun or someone's back to turn to gain the advantage.

Anyone also knows McClane surviving four movies is because he's a hero.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zan is 1-0 in hand to hand fights without needing a gun or someone's back to turn to gain the advantage.

Anyone also knows McClane surviving four movies is because he's a hero.

Seems someone is numerically challenged. Van Zan's record is: 0 wins 0 loses 1 no decision

The "hero wins" doesn't fly in here, we use screen-feats and disregard pis/cis; you've been told this many times. Sop trying to hide behind it, this isn't the Comic Vs forum, this is serious business.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems someone is numerically challenged. Van Zan's record is: 0 wins 0 loses 1 no decision

The "hero wins" doesn't fly in here, we use screen-feats and disregard pis/cis; you've been told this many times. Sop trying to hide behind it, this isn't the Comic Vs forum, this is serious business.

Zan was going to win had he not been pulled off so he's 1-0. The film makes it clear. Zan is someone who doesn't even view human beings as threats just cattle for him to coral against his only true rivals the dragons.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zan was going to win had he not been pulled off so he's 1-0. The film makes it clear. Zan is someone who doesn't even view human beings as threats just cattle for him to coral against his only true rivals the dragons.

A fight being stopped in the middle with no clear winner since Quinn was fine and capable of continuing the fight is a ND (No Decision), you're just going to have to stop whining and deal with these facts.

Van Zan's fight record: 0 wins 0 loses 1 No Decision

Originally posted by Robtard
A fight being stopped in the middle with no clear winner since Quinn was fine and capable of continuing the fight is a ND (No Decision), you're just going to have to stop whining and deal with these facts.

Van Zan's fight record: 0 wins 0 loses 1 No Decision

No, the judges just told me I am right and Zan was winning to the point of Quinn needing outside interference to continue.

The judges have ruled. Their ruling is final.

Zan 1-0 against human beings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the judges just told me I am right and Zan was winning to the point of Quinn needing outside interference to continue.

The judges have ruled. Their ruling is final.

Zan 1-0 against human beings.

I'm sending you a bigger oar, help you paddle down that river of denial better.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm sending you a bigger oar, help you paddle down that river of denial better.
The only reason I am on the river of denial is to save you. Now climb onboard and let me rescue you.

Ahhhhh the divorce from reality is complete.

Every baseless assertion of Denton Van Victory is a further nail in the coffin of your credibility at this point.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ahhhhh the divorce from reality is complete.

Every baseless assertion of Denton Van Victory is a further nail in the coffin of your credibility at this point.

Please let me resuce ron from the McClane train.

Your Van Zan is the one going off the rails.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Your Van Zan is the one going off the rails.
No selling a sucker punch is pretty impressive.

But when its a girly, no-damage slap, that impressiveness becomes decidedly moot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No selling a sucker punch is pretty impressive.

If we want to play that game, then Quinn no-selling Zan's multiple hits/headbutts is doubly if not triply impressive, so indeed it has been proven that Quinn, and not Zan, is in fact the bigger badass here

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But when its a girly, no-damage slap, that impressiveness becomes decidedly moot.
Both girls we pretty elite and it was broken up before Zan would secure his death.

Originally posted by Lestov16
If we want to play that game, then Quinn no-selling Zan's multiple hits/headbutts is doubly if not triply impressive, so indeed it has been proven that Quinn, and not Zan, is in fact the bigger badass here
Quinn was losing and the female noted he wouldn't have stopped until Quinn was dead. Zan doesn't stop until McClane dies.

It would have taken him 20,934 years at that rate of non-damage.

It would take him millions of millenia against McDamage soak.

No chance for Van Zan.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It would have taken him 20,934 years at that rate of non-damage.

It would take him millions of millenia against McDamage soak.

No chance for Van Zan.

You're being a tad ridiculous. Zan stops when McClane's heart gives out.

Which hasn't happened onscreen once in 4 -soon to be five, maybe - movies.

(Unlike in Van Zan's case.)

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Which hasn't happened onscreen once in 4 -soon to be five, maybe - movies.

(Unlike in Van Zan's case.)

Because McClane is the hero and always prevails just like Indiana Jones.

No....as proved in the movies, DH universe heroes die all the time..
Mr.Takagi...the seal team... Ricky... etc etc

Your PIS usuage is a poor substitute for acceptance of fact that should have been accepted long ago; - that McClane absolutely murders Van Zan.