Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by focus4chumps112 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
I still don't follow the comment though? ie the joke went over my head.

yes thats quite apparent.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You are completely missing the point here. I am NOT comparing the ninjas to Bourne. I am comparing McClane to Bourne. I am saying, that because we still see McClane get hurt, bleed, knocked-out, hospitalized, and sometimes get out-skilled in a fight, it makes him more relatable than some of the more untouchable action heroes like Frank Martin. I mean, how many times have you see Frank Martin cut, bleed, or knocked out? Compare that to how many times we've seen McClane hurt or in dire straits.

Hospitalised? Knocked out? Uhoh..some ass talking going on here....

Name ONE hospitalisation.. (name the hospital) or knockout? Especially one that was down to hand to hand.

You sir, were doing well until this post, pretending to be all objective, but now you are definitely talking out of your back passage.

I cant begin to think of a Knockout but I assume when he says 'Hospitalisation' he means at the end of each movie when a cut and bleeding man, finished with his Hero Fun for the day, takes time to clean and bandage his wounds with the help of Medical personel.

EACH movie? lol Name the hospital.
And failing that, name the movies in which Mcclane is retired into medical care at the end of the movie, especially on h2h related affairs.

Pretty sure that this hypotheical hosptial is not 'St.Dragon's gullet hospital for those that cannot fight'.

Watch DH5, the kind of medical service the McClane's need consist of John pulling a shard of metal out of his son's side and then they're both back on the clock. Cut and bleeding, but little worse for the wear.

It should be noted that this was after four action sequences that had one or more of the following: Explosions, car crashes, fire fights, melee fights and falls.

Exactly. Rambo sewing his arm in first blood now looks like unnecessary girlyboy melodrama in comparison.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hospitalised? Knocked out? Uhoh..some ass talking going on here....

Name ONE hospitalisation.. (name the hospital) or knockout? Especially one that was down to hand to hand.

You sir, were doing well until this post, pretending to be all objective, but now you are definitely talking out of your back passage.

I guess hospitalization is the wrong word. Let's change that to "required medical care" instead.

Oh right when he OPTED for medical treatement..... And that was down to a self inflicted gunshot wound, used to kill abad guy behind im. Hes tanked gunshots before and not bothered with medical care...none in DH1 despite lacerated feet, being shot, and having numerous cuts bruises etc etc 🙂

Also whilst you're changing terminoiogy, lets also change 'Knocked out' to the more accurate "never once having been knocked out"...

Originally posted by FrothByte
I guess hospitalization is the wrong word. Let's change that to "required medical care" instead.

I had to think hard on when McClane needed hospital attention.

I actually questioned my knowledge on the guy.

Now that it has been confirmed that you meant "needed hospitalization"

It all remains the same 🙂

McClane still reigns supreme.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
so's your unwarranted self importance, sir.

My self importance is between me and myself good sir.
If you don't like people responding to you talking trash about their friends then you need to back yourself up on your weird claims.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I had to think hard on when McClane needed hospital attention.

I actually questioned my knowledge on the guy.

Now that it has been confirmed that you meant "needed hospitalization"

It all remains the same 🙂

McClane still reigns supreme.

Van Zan required the attention of a poop scooper.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Van Zan required the attention of a poop scooper.

He served his purpose indeed. To be the poop for the scooper.

And he did it well.

(Credit where credit is due)

Originally posted by focus4chumps
pointing out most advanced cases of malnourishment does not negate lesser cases. its clear that they were going hungry as suggested with the splinter family who intended to run off after harvesting the crops early, which was irrational and suicidal in the long term.
You conceded this ridiculous argument later in thread. LOL at you fanboys.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
His pointless questions have all been answered. Nowhere left to hide behind that old tactic.

McClane feats posted in the past you 've ignored:

Karl's brother Vs McClane (you tried to deny McClane victory because stairs were involved[/i], as a brainless, butthurt manchild would.)

Karl Vs McClane: Despite each being uber tough, McClane winning AFTER having been shot in the encounter, and McClane clearly beating the f**k out of him, you cried about McClane's finishing move...
He one shots one of Han's guys just before the confrontation with Hans... ignored.

Beats Ninja Chick, in 4.0 after he KO'd her, and she failed to kill him and he killed her...... You then cried about the expedient way in which McClane cleared up the matter AFTER it was shown that he took her out and could have kiled her at anytime when she was sparked out... imitating the brain dead argument RJ used to make out of lack of your own initiative.

Die Hard 5: McClane shown one shotting an enraged Russian urban mobster type AFTER the guy hit McClane with his car, and having survived a car crash that would have killed most..
You then cry that he "cheap shotted the guy" which firstly is blatantly untrue as the guy squared up for a fight with McClane...McClane hooked him first fair and square.
And secondly, you cried trying to say that he was a bystandaer when he clearly wasn't. Thridly, you tried to ignore the fact that McClane hooks and KO's in one shot WAY faster and harder than ANYTHING Van Zan has given out, taken or being shown able to avoid. But still the butthurt tears or rage kept a coming....

Later H2H thrashes a top level Russian secret service type gangster who had a machine gun on McClane at the time! )
McClane has fought some of the hardest guys around and got through, often messily... agiainst Mercs, Cops, Seals, Marines, Secret service guys, freaks of nature...hes done it all and is gonna make Die Hard 6)
Yet you cry ignorantly, having never even seen the movie.

His punches sound like bags of cement slapping an elephant, and he damages opponents, unlike Van Zan..

[b]So, until you provide us with evidence of Van Zan doing anything else other than delivering really slow slap-level punches that do no damage to their opponent, and displaying no speed or real fight ability other than grunting and posing, McClane wins. [/B]

This doesn't cover up the woman destroying McClane who was armed. She then turned her back on him due to it being in a Die Hard film. Just all of a sudden she decides to ignore the woman despiser known as McClane.

Zan destroys this creep.

He utterly lacks the feats/attributes to do so.

BTW you keep ignoring that Mcclane spared her out of courtesy/chivalry..but she didn't get the hint and had to be taken out. But thats allright Quan, get your twinkiish butthurt out, if you want to attack McClane's character cause you are butthurt and have nothing left thats fine. You cried about Van Zan losing before and tried to attack McClane for being a bad husband and father before too..... LOL

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He utterly lacks the feats/attributes to do so.

BTW you keep ignoring that Mcclane spared her out of courtesy/chivalry..but she didn't get the hint and had to be taken out. But thats allright Quan, get your twinkiish butthurt out, if you want to attack McClane's character cause you are butthurt and have nothing left thats fine. You cried about Van Zan losing before and tried to attack McClane for being a bad husband and father before too..... LOL

Don't be mad at me he's a divorcee. That's the die hard films.

Zan wins. He was beyond Quinn's attacks while McClane needs a girl to turn around because she was bullying him.

Man>woman>McClane.

Nope you're wrong and crying your twinksome tears again.

Which is hilarious. 😆

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope you're wrong and crying your twinksome tears again.

Which is hilarious. 😆

you are the one bumping all the threads showing a real emotional investment here. I just respond like I always do.

Nope it was all point proving, pointing out how long and deep your butthurt is, along with your underling Lestov's: Mission accomplished

And the beauty of it is your every post now just aids the cause.

🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope it was all point proving, pointing out how long and deep your butthurt is, along with your underling Lestov's: Mission accomplished

And the beauty of it is your every post now just aids the cause.

🙂

I am talking about you. Why must you always talk about someone else ? You seem really upset. I recommend some time off the board.

Hilarious how Saddie is the one claiming butthurt when he's literally changed his signature purely for a MVF match 😆
Yes, Saddie, your mission of burying your own credibility deeper than the Mariana Trench was accomplished without a single hitch. Congrats 😂