Originally posted by RobtardHe was cheapshotted and still was unfazed unlike McClane who gets rocked by mere women despite being armed. Zan doesn't even feel his sissy attacksk and doesn't stop until he's dead.
Which tells us Van Zan couldn't even take out let alone seriousness harm an untrained guy before the fight was stopped. That's not a h2h win. Says the guy who ignores and then repeats the same failed argument.Not with zero h2h wins. Sorry. Do the math.
Originally posted by quanchi112
By this logic a five year old who beats up another five year old wins over him. This is why your logic is trash. It makes no sense.
LoL, now you're trying to downplay McClane to the status of a five year old. How sad.
Anyhow, Van Zan has zero h2h wins. How bitter does that donut taste?
He posed and grunted. And failed utterly to damage his opponent with 5 slappy ineffective, pussy little punch and a headbutt (that he over compensated for lack of effectiveness with more unifit grunting noises and posing) whilst he cheaply sat on his opponent's arms....and that opoonent was undamaged and needed to be held back by 3 guys from killing Van Zan as he shouted at Van Zan "I'llllll killllll ya!!!! I'll kill yaaaaaaaaaa....!!!!" (Able to do so because 5 of VZ's best shots and a headbutt couldnt even damage or shut his mouth) lol
McClane KO's him in one very very fast and powerful left hook like the one seen being used effectively on more that one occasion in Dh5 alone.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthHe was winning and had to be pulled off. That's exactly what happened despite your spinning.
He posed and grunted. And failed utterly to damage his opponent with 5 slappy ineffective, pussy little punch and a headbutt (that he over compensated for lack of effectiveness with more unifit grunting noises and posing) whilst he cheaply sat on his opponent's arms....and that opoonent was undamaged and needed to be held back by 3 guys from killing Van Zan as he shouted at Van Zan "I'llllll killllll ya!!!! I'll kill yaaaaaaaaaa....!!!!" (Able to do so because 5 of VZ's best shots and a headbutt couldnt even damage or shut his mouth) lolMcClane KO's him in one very very fast and powerful left hook like the one seen being used effectively on more that one occasion in Dh5 alone.
McClane can't even kill a weaker woman with a punch. You are delusional as ever. Zan, 10/10.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Movies depict McClane being an utter chump in H2H whose only good feat is against a random bystander
Nope. He was neither random, or a bystander.
Neither was the top level Russian secret service killer than had a machine gun on McClane, whom McClane brutally punched out in one shot, either.
So downplay all you like, the movie pwns your statement that is formed from ignorance. 🙂
Originally posted by RobtardBy having more skills are you focusing on his ability to be routinely beat down and search for a convenient weapon ? I agree he is one helluva get me ass kicked i will show you type guy. Zan crushes him.
McClane having more skills via weapon doesn't negate his kills without a weapon and his h2h wins.Van Zan has zero h2h wins. So got anything else?
Originally posted by quanchi112
By having more skills are you focusing on his ability to be routinely beat down and search for a convenient weapon ? I agree he is one helluva get me ass kicked i will show you type guy.Zan crushes him.
You might try reworking that.
Not with zero h2h wins and a minor fight showing. So, got anything else?