Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Silent Master112 pages

I'm glad that you've accepted that Quinn's feats aren't good enough for him to be considered average.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm glad that you've accepted that Quinn's feats aren't good enough for him to be considered average.
I never once conceded it I just laughed at your backwater mentality at only looking at feats. You are wrong. Telling someone the manner in which they are debating isn't conceding, new guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never once conceded it I just laughed at your backwater mentality at only looking at feats. You are wrong. Telling someone the manner in which they are debating isn't conceding, new guy.

I find it amusing that you basically just admitted that your stance isn't based on facts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I find it amusing that you basically just admitted that your stance isn't based on facts.
My stance is based on zan's domination of quinn. That's a fact. I didn't just make up Zan easily dominating Quinn.

You're just pretending it's far more impressive than it really is.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're just pretending it's far more impressive than it really is.
You said my stance wasn't based on a fact. You are a liar.

Your stance was never based on fact, it was based on you lying about what the movie showed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never once conceded it I just laughed at your backwater mentality at only looking at feats.

"Backwater mentaiity?"

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t543649.html

"The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!"

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
"Backwater mentaiity?"

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t543649.html

"The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!"

Quan knows that as it stands Zan doesn't have the feats to compete with McClane, So he's trying to nature of the debate.

He's trying to turn it into 1) McClane was the star of a movie, 2) In ROF Zan was beating the star of a movie, therefore Zan beats McClane.

Basically, Quan is arguing like a second grader

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your stance was never based on fact, it was based on you lying about what the movie showed.
No, they were based on facts. You tried to make quinn look less due to your own personal bias.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
"Backwater mentaiity?"

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t543649.html

"The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!"

I am arguing based on movie portrayal which has to do with his feats. Being beyond Quinn is a feat but to act like feats are the only thing that matter is just ridiculous.

You try to lie and impose handicaps, downplaying feats, and just making shit up expected it to be taken in preference to what we actually see go down on screen.
This is why you are the laughing stock that you are, and cannot be taken seriously at all..

I dont see how scrotum head survives a wood chipper.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You try to lie and impose handicaps, downplaying feats, and just making shit up expected it to be taken in preference to what we actually see go down on screen.
This is why you are the laughing stock that you are, and cannot be taken seriously at all..
You sound like you are crying. Just relax. I debate logically and and am very good at what I do. It gets lonely at the top of the mountain.

Him kicking the asses of guys better than Matthew Imkindagay throughout 4 movies, that.

Originally posted by Ruthie3ondeau
Him kicking the asses of guys better than Matthew Imkindagay throughout 4 movies, that.
Zan wins. McClane gets his ass kicked and reaches for a gun. No gun here.

Nah McClane clearly just KOs him and moves on, judging by...you know...erm...screenfeats.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nah McClane clearly just KOs him and moves on, judging by...you know...erm...screenfeats.
When has Zan been ko'd ? McClane gets his ass kicked per screenfeats,

It occurs when he meets a man with a one shot lightning fast KO punch that decimates all it is applied to...McClane.

You ignore Die Hard 5 and break forum rules by attempting downplaying/handicapping.

McClane KOs him on his way to fetch the morning paper matter or factly before his 1st dump of the day.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It occurs when he meets a man with a one shot lightning fast KO punch that decimates all it is applied to...McClane.

You ignore Die Hard 5 and break forum rules by attempting downplaying/handicapping.

McClane KOs him on his way to fetch the morning paper matter or factly before his 1st dump of the day.

You ignore dh1-4 and rely solely on five like that's his only movie. Girl crushes McClane. We all laugh. You stomp your feet and Zan wins.