Originally posted by Lestov16
Zan wins 6.5/10. McClane has never beaten anyone in H2H on Zan or Quinn's level.
Quinn's level is that of an average person with no known HTH training and Zan's level is that of someone who is unable to ko or seriously injure an average person. Sorry, but McClane has actually beaten and killed people in HTH.
Zan has zero chance of winning.
Originally posted by Lestov16
What is the known and proven H2H training of the people McClane beat?
LoL, this distract tactic yet again, but it's been answered several times now:
-A Special Forces guy (DH2), we know they receive h2h combat traning.
-A "professional" mercenary(DH4), so he's also likely ex special forces of some manner and would have received some manner of h2h training.
-Lihn(DH4) obviously had martial arts training.
-Russian service agent in DH5, he would have had some manner of military training.
So, what are Quinn's and Van Zan "levels" you always refer to, yet refuse to quantify? Will you dodge again?
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, this distract tactic yet again, but it's been answered several times now:-A Special Forces guy (DH2), we know they receive h2h combat traning.
-A "professional" mercenary(DH4), so he's also likely ex special forces of some manner and would have received some manner of h2h training.
-Lihn(DH4) obviously had martial arts training.
-Russian service agent in DH5, he would have had some manner of military training.
So, what are Quinn's and Van Zan "levels" you always refer to, yet refuse to quantify? Will you dodge again?
True, but the best part is, that even if they had zero training, that would just place them on the same level and Quinn and Zan.
Originally posted by Lestov16
What is the known and proven H2H training of the people McClane beat?
Doesn't matter, because even if they didn't have any, that would just make them equal to Quinn and Zan, thus McClane beating them proves that he's above both Quinn and Zan.
Good job proving that John wins 10/10.
Originally posted by Silent MasterHe's also relied on guns/stupidity in the majority of his fights. Zan dominated the leader of a group in a post apocalyptic world like a child. Zan dominates the wimp from DH.
Sorry, but John has won fights without using weapons...which beats being unable to KO an average person.Zan has zero chance of winning this.
Originally posted by Silent MasterSo now the leader of a post apocalyptic group of humans who have alluded the dragons up to this point is average ? STFU. 😂 You debate like h1. Baseless claim after baseless claim.
Zan being unable to ko an average person doesn't trump McClane beating multiple people in HTH.Zan has zero chance of winning this.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYour logic dictates without feats someone can't be above average. Acting like quinn was some average guy is ignoring his portrayal within the film.
Well, I was willing to be generous and grant him average status, but as you've pointed out, Quinn's feats aren't good enough for that ranking.Thank you for pointing out that I was giving Quinn to much credit.