Mankind was heavily reduced thanks to his efforts and they survived in spite of him.
Marriage schmarriage.
Its about his effectiveness at surviving and messing up bad guys.
You ladies like to concentrate on the flowery stuff, like love, drama, domestic marriage issues and emotional nicety...which is alright...but we debate based on fightskills and smarts here.
You know...like being able to survive all-odds-against-movies, punch a guy out and even damage him. (Things that Van Zan cannot do) This is why you cry.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthMinus him mankind was not saved. McClane did not save his own marriage. Facts. Kiddo.
Mankind was heavily reduced thanks to his efforts and they survived in spite of him.Marriage schmarriage.
Its about his effectiveness at surviving and messing up bad guys.
You ladies like to concentrate on the flowery stuff, like love, drama, domestic marriage issues and emotional nicety...which is alright...but we debate based on fightskills and smarts here.
You know...like being able to survive all-odds-against-movies, punch a guy out and even damage him. (Things that Van Zan cannot do) This is why you cry.
Marriage is about taxable procreation/keeping the economy going.
McClane ruled at that and produced two kids from his nutsack that would WFT murder Van Zan on their way to get the morning newspaper, possibly without noticing due to how effortless that would likely be for them..
Not that VanZan would be a threat to them, we all have seen that with 5 completely free shots and a head butt he could inflict only zero damage on an opponent.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthMcClane was just her own personal dum dumpster. She clearly dumped him after she used him for his seed.
Marriage is about taxable procreation/keeping the economy going.
McClane ruled at that and produced two kids from his nutsack that would WFT murder Van Zan on their way to get the morning newspaper, possibly without noticing due to how effortless that would likely be for them..Not that VanZan would be a threat to them, we all have seen that with 5 completely free shots and a head butt he could inflict only zero damage on an opponent.
Zan lived in a post apocalyptic world in which he didn't have time to fail a marriage. He was the dragons boogeyman according to the director but of course you say nuh uh. You're clearly upset.
Zan dominated the ultimate survivor from his film meanwhile McClane is just someone women leave or beat up until they turn around.
Zan batted for the other team.
The only bare chested sweaty groaning and grunting done by him in that movie was when he was mounted on top of Quinn.
Now Im not dissing folks of that persuasion, Im sure many historically have been fierce athletes and warriors... but VZ isn't one of them.
VZ hits like a particularly weak girl, all his plans turn to shit, and he gets everyone killed and feeds the thing they all need to kill..
McClane survived all 5 DH movies. VZ wouldn't make it through ten minutes of any one of them.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthNow you are just making things up out of pain. Just relax, kid.
Zan batted for the other team.
The only bare chested sweaty groaning and grunting done by him in that movie was when he was mounted on top of Quinn.Now Im not dissing folks of that persuasion, Im sure many historically have been fierce athletes and warriors... but VZ isn't one of them.
VZ hits like a particularly weak girl, all his plans turn to shit, and he gets everyone killed and feeds the thing they all need to kill..
McClane survived all 5 DH movies. VZ wouldn't make it through ten minutes of any one of them.
Dominated the ultimate survivor and star of the film. McClane couldn't dominate a woman and had to cheap shot her when she turned around.
McClane cheap shots women and fails at marriage. Awful human being.
No Im not like you.
Sexually mounted him, failed to damage him despite best efforts. A pathetic show.
Nah McClane escapes all, ends bitches and is funny after it. Great fictional character. That you cannot delineate between fiction and real, is no surprise giving some of your more odd recent vindictive stalkertroll behavior towards posters and their families and children here. You are nuts. Not in a kooky fun way either, just unbalanced and immature. You give adolescent teens a bad name.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthNo, Zan won. They had to pull him off.
No Im not like you.Sexually mounted him, failed to damage him despite best efforts. A pathetic show.
Nah McClane escapes all, ends bitches and is funny after it. Great fictional character. That you cannot delineate between fiction and real, is no surprise giving some of your more odd recent vindictive stalkertroll behavior towards posters and their families and children here. You are nuts. Not in a kooky fun way either, just unbalanced and immature. You give adolescent teens a bad name.
Thats a fanboyism excuse which is awful. No context and delusional.
Zan>women>marriage>John McClane.
I'm going to still say Van Zan here, even though he only wins by a .5% margin due to actually being able to block and counter shots. McClane can soak up a lot, but I don't see him hitting Zan, and sooner or later, McClane will go down.
I will say that any situation in which Mcclane gets an inanimate object or gun, Van Zan gets sodomized. I just don't believe McClane can win the pure H2H. No offense, but he's one of the worst fictional H2H combatants ever. He has no technique.
Incorrect. his hooks and straight have great technique, as are the blocks he employs when he bothers.
Technique with no posing, growling and other attempts to make up for the fact that he can't damage things at all, unlike with Van Zan. VZ can do nothing at all to McClane.
Its not flowery technique, its not poncey pose shite, it works.
In one shot these days it seems, too. Brutality that Van Zan can only lay dreaming* of being able to perform.
*Dreaming, masturbating, or generally being unconscious after one McClane shot....
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm going to still say Van Zan here, even though he only wins by a .5% margin due to actually being able to block and counter shots. McClane can soak up a lot, but I don't see him hitting Zan, and sooner or later, McClane will go down.I will say that any situation in which Mcclane gets an inanimate object or gun, Van Zan gets sodomized. I just don't believe McClane can win the pure H2H. No offense, but he's one of the worst fictional H2H combatants ever. He has [b]no
technique. [/B]
So, despite McClane having better HTH feats, you don't think he can win?