Originally posted by psycho gundam
no, againthere was a standoff. aegis' death isn't really something you can ascribe from the galactus dildo at all.
What exactly was the Cancerverse then fielding that would be capable of performing the feat?
But then again what you are doing is basically imo completely ignoring what Surfer told us on panel, that even though the Galactus Engine didn't appear to be doing anything, there was already a full confrontation going on in the abstract scale, which Surfer and the rest would only see the consequances of, one of those was the death of Aegis. At least that imo is the logical conclusion given that it happened right after Surfer was done talking, but to each his own.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i rather read the comic cause it can't lie to mebesides, on-panel, aegis was destroyed by some squids or whatever, not a feat you can tack onto the engine at all so this is moot to be honest
What the heck. Just reread my posts. There was never any need for you to quote my posts.
All of your quotes and comments regarding my posts clearly show that you have misunderstood them and that your comments are redundant.
For what it's worth, I've never been of the opinion that the GE killed all of the cosmics, sans Galactus. I mean, look at how many Celestials there originally were at the frontline:
And if you recall, even all of the cosmics' collective power was barely enough to hold back the GE. That being said, I have a very hard time believing that Galactus was capable of holding back the GE all by his lonesome- especially considering his power would have been significantly less than what he started out with, by that point. Personally, I chalk it up to the artist simply not showing the scale of the battle, as he had before. /shrug
Originally posted by ahmazing
To be fair, Aegis was killed by the Many Angled Ones and not the Galactus Engine, while Tenebrous simply went MIA.Several Celestials + Galactus fought the GE head-on and when the dust settled, it was revealed that all the Celestials had either fled or died while only Galactus remained. It's safe to say that GE > 4 Celestials + Galactus.
However, I highly doubt that the GE alone would be enough to defeat the entire Celestial race, as their population is numbering in the millions?
Celestial stomps.
I am going to have an aneurysm soon out of witnessing pure stupidity.
Originally posted by Galan007exactly, and if you look at the shot of the celestials and galactus before the GE before it dies, the number of celestials is consistent with e scale of the field of view in both shots.
For what it's worth, I've never been of the opinion that the GE killed all of the cosmics, sans Galactus. I mean, look at how many Celestials there originally were at the frontline:And if you recall, even all of the cosmics' collective power was barely enough to hold back the GE. That being said, I have a very hard time believing that Galactus was capable of holding back the GE all by his lonesome- especially considering his power would have been significantly less than what he started out with, by that point. Personally, I chalk it up to the artist simply not showing the scale of the battle, as he had before. /shrug
galactus was dead center the whole time, so there are just as many celestials (one can assume) on the other side of him
Originally posted by psycho gundam
when she died, things burst through her face from the inside *shrug*correction: galactus was indeed in front of the engine, i got him confused with ziran the tester at first.
Which would seem to be consistent with the battle described to us by the Surfer. We can't perceive the assault but we can perceive the result.
I can see both sides here... If made to pick, I would take Utrigita and others.... Surfer flat out said we can't really perceive what is going on... next it was stated on panel that ALL of the abstracts combined were barely enough to hold back the engine as Galan quoted. So, what is logical then... if ALL of them could barely hold him off... then we see Gaalctus by himself.. I think the logical conclusion would be he at least killed some of them off.. maybe some other fled. But if they could barely hold him off that means the GE was significantly more powerful than individual celestials certainly and we saw Aegis die.. so why then would it be so tough to take the next logical step that at least some celestials also died? Whether he killed all the abstracts or not is up for debate.. whether he engine killed some abstracts and was certainly the most powerful being on the field.. I don't think there should be a question about.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIf it took Galactus (when he was presumably well-nourished) + Tenebrous + Aegis + numerous Celestials just to barely hold back the GE originally, then it's exceedingly difficult to imagine (a much weaker by that point) Galactus holding back the GE all by himself.
I can see both sides here... If made to pick, I would take Utrigita and others.... Surfer flat out said we can't really perceive what is going on... next it was stated on panel that ALL of the abstracts combined were barely enough to hold back the engine as Galan quoted. So, what is logical then... if ALL of them could barely hold him off... then we see Gaalctus by himself.. I think the logical conclusion would be he at least killed some of them off.. maybe some other fled. But if they could barely hold him off that means the GE was significantly more powerful than individual celestials certainly and we saw Aegis die.. so why then would it be so tough to take the next logical step that at least some celestials also died? Whether he killed all the abstracts or not is up for debate.. whether he engine killed some abstracts and was certainly the most powerful being on the field.. I don't think there should be a question about.
So while I can agree that there may have been other cosmics aside from Aegis that were killed/removed from the field- there is no way G was the only cosmic still alive. There logically had to have been others.
Being silly here, even if the Celestials were 'destroyed' they have returned proving Tiamut's words they cannot b destroyed that's awesome
For me, I hope Gillen's explanation follows continuity, we all know writers write differently telling a tale
Celestials are returning to help Tiamut WTF
We will see
I have ordered 20 of em
😛
Originally posted by Galan007
If it took Galactus (when he was presumably well-nourished) + Tenebrous + Aegis + numerous Celestials just to barely hold back the GE originally, then it's exceedingly difficult to imagine (a much weaker by that point) Galactus holding back the GE all by himself.So while I can agree that there may have been other cosmics aside from Aegis that were killed/removed from the field- there is no way G was the only cosmic still alive. There logically had to have been others.
Given that the GE is basically a alternate version of Galactus, I find it plausible that it was expending energy while fighting the 616 abstracts, or as I have mentioned before, it's possible that the other Abstracts broke off the engagement with the GE to combat the other abstracts that was coming in behind the GE.
Originally posted by Galan007
For what it's worth, I've never been of the opinion that the GE killed all of the cosmics, sans Galactus. I mean, look at how many Celestials there originally were at the frontline:And if you recall, even all of the cosmics' collective power was barely enough to hold back the GE. That being said, I have a very hard time believing that Galactus was capable of holding back the GE all by his lonesome- especially considering his power would have been significantly less than what he started out with, by that point. Personally, I chalk it up to the artist simply not showing the scale of the battle, as he had before. /shrug
That or he pulled a hero move. Holding off the foe alone that he couldn't with his team just to be awesome. So otherwords pis
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Then again, sans Scathan... no celestial has a feat that comes close to what Cubes have done on panel... if we go by feats.. cubes > celestials. While the Kubik statement has "some" relevance it isn't the be all end all as we know. Narration can only go so far and can sometimes (maybe in this case) be attributed to hyperbole. The fact is, cubes have greater feats of power than celestials have shown.
But if we go by fights Cube Beings are a joke. Who have they fought against? Have they won those fights? Feats are meaningless when you have high herald level characters like Thor shoring up the fabric of the MULTIVERSE wih his Godblast or two Mjolnirs clanging together causing a shockwave that spreads across the infinite universe and is compared to the Big Bang in power. 🙄
