Originally posted by jalek moye
That or he pulled a hero move. Holding off the foe alone that he couldn't with his team just to be awesome. So otherwords pis
Nah, let's give Galactus SOME credit. I just figured the Celestials and Teneberous realized it was pointless and left, leaving Galactus to go at it alone. Death then did her job and that was that.
Originally posted by Bentley
You're right, I had forgotten that he asked for a delay but now we confirmed that Galactus won. I'll tinker something for him tonight.
I hate you 😛 , but a deals a deal. At least Odin fans can take solace in the fact that Galactus wanted no part of the Odin/Destroyer combo and was forced into a humiliating truce by the end of the arc. 💃
Originally posted by UtrigitaTrue, but imo it's more logical to assume Galactus still had some help, then it is to assume he had no help at all.
So does the other point of view really.
...Unless you think he was capable of single-handedly holding back the GE in a weak(er) state than he started at..?
Originally posted by guy222
Being silly here, even if the Celestials were 'destroyed' they have returned proving Tiamut's words they cannot b destroyed that's awesomeFor me, I hope Gillen's explanation follows continuity, we all know writers write differently telling a tale
Celestials are returning to help Tiamut WTF
We will see
I have ordered 20 of em
😛
You run a comic shop guy?
Originally posted by Galan007
True, but imo it's more logical to assume Galactus still had some help, then it is to assume he had no help at all....Unless you think he was capable of single-handedly holding back the GE in a weak(er) state than he started at..?
Yet it's still a assumption, which is as far as I read in conflict with Silver Surfer's statement.
I don't, hence why I outlined the most common rule that generally applies to all the various versions of Galactus.
Originally posted by zopzop
I hate you 😛 , but a deals a deal. At least Odin fans can take solace in the fact that Galactus wanted no part of the Odin/Destroyer combo and was forced into a humiliating truce by the end of the arc. 💃
Galactus wasn't forced into anything. Odin was the one who couldn't even stand on his own two feet.
Originally posted by zopzop
I posted the scan, Galactus was FORCED into an unease truce with Asgard. There's really no denying it.
That implies the seed being hidden had no bearing on the truce, and he would have agreed to it had he known where it was.
Which the story makes clear isn't the case. He wanted the seed, and would have continued fighting, but once Loki hid it he had no real reason to risk all fighting Asgard.
It was a pragmatic action, not one born of fear.
Originally posted by cdtm
That implies the seed being hidden had no bearing on the truce, and he would have agreed to it had he known where it was.Which the story makes clear isn't the case. He wanted the seed, and would have continued fighting, but once Loki hid it he had no real reason to risk all fighting Asgard.
It was a pragmatic action, not one born of fear.
The story also makes it clear that if he wanted to, he could have continued the search for the Seed. Read Surfer's dialogue :
But he was forced into a truce, in fact it was Team Cosmic that suggested the truce not the Asgardians.
Originally posted by zopzop
The story also makes it clear that if he wanted to, he could have continued the search for the Seed. Read Surfer's dialogue :But he was forced into a truce, in fact it was Team Cosmic that suggested the truce not the Asgardians.
I completely disagree with your intrepretstion. Galactus truce was only because he didn't want to search forever for it. You presume it's cause of a fear. That's not shown . Galactus makes no indication in the comic to back up his fear of te asgardians. He just didn't want to waste any more energy on them. And it wasn't as if galactus was even wanting to kill them either... Hence his stance about not wanting to waste lives.
Your interpreting is way off base
Originally posted by Galan007
True, but imo it's more logical to assume Galactus still had some help, then it is to assume he had no help at all....Unless you think he was capable of single-handedly holding back the GE in a weak(er) state than he started at..?
The weakness of this argument is that assumption would directly fly in the face of Surfer's statement that Galactus was literally the only entity left to oppose the Engine (if my master cannot vanquish the obscene Galactus engine....). Your argument also makes the implicit assumption that Galactus had been holding it back by himself for any extended period of time, however his proximity to the GE's mouth makes clear that no matter how long or how short he had been fighting it alone, he was about to lose.
This is reinforced by the fact that Medusa implicitly concurs by ordering the remnants of the Shiar and Kree fleets closer "to directly support Galactus." The 5 or 8 members of the Nova Corps are also ordered to move in to support Galactus directly. This is clearly a commander committing all remaining resources into 1 specific point, not spread out like they began at the start of the battle.
The logical assumption to me is that all of the forces of the cosmic entities have either fled or been destroyed save Galactus, and the situation is so dire that Galactus is literally on the verge of being consumed himself.
If there were any celestials left...why does surfer make the statement that they are all doomed if Galactus falls to the GE? Why does medusa basically order an all-or-nothing assault by bringing all her reserves into the center? It's because they're acting in desperation. I'm pretty sure Medusa would refrain from sending the 8 novacorps members in to certain death if even 1 Celestial remained.
Edit: There's also the fact that Surfer had already been established as the reader's source of qualified information pertaining to the battle, as seen in his explanation to Quasar and Nova that conflict had began against the GE when both thought it was just a face-off between the cosmics and the GE. I.e., at no point is surfer portrayed as being unaware/uninformed/unsure of what was occurring on the battlefield.
Originally posted by rotiart
I completely disagree with your intrepretstion. Galactus truce was only because he didn't want to search forever for it. You presume it's cause of a fear. That's not shown . Galactus makes no indication in the comic to back up his fear of te asgardians. He just didn't want to waste any more energy on them. And it wasn't as if galactus was even wanting to kill them either... Hence his stance about not wanting to waste lives.Your interpreting is way off base
Then why does the Surfer say, once the Asgardians are dead (from old age or whatever), then Galactus can return and consume the Seed? He could have continued his search for the Seed but the Asgardians forced him into a truce.
