Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? So Spider Woman can tear up Thor like she did Worthy Hulk? Because I call bullsh|t if you say yes and if you say no, then how can Worthy Hulk be Thor level?Worthy Thing would have lost (according to on panel statements) if Rulk didn't hold back and use his energy absorption abilities in that fight.
What has worthy Titania done that puts her in Thor's league power wise?
What has worthy Attuma done? Beat Namor? 😆
The only Worthy that looked like he could give Thor a problem was Worthy Cain and that was because he was stacking power from two Gods. We saw what happened to him once Cytorrak withdrew his support.
Let's see what Thor think about one of the Worthys.
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Originally posted by zopzopWhat's more powerful, a huge AoE blast that one-shot Thanos or a small handblast that Thanos slaps away?
When the arguments fail and on panel evidence isn't there, now the childish insults begin. That's all you have really. Stew in your hate, I love it!LOL @ "looking at the comic". It was the same comic that had Thanos get up from that sucker shot and then go on to own her. He deflected her blasts, he brought her to her knees, then he shut down her mind. But the collateral damage wasn't there! So I guess what we saw on panel is all meaningless. I guess Odin/Seth are more powerful than the Cosmic Hierarchy summoned to put down Thanos with the IG. I mean all they manged to do was destroy a few solar systems in the immediate vicinity of the battlezone. Odin/Seth destroyed entire GALAXIES, reignited long dead stars throughout the UNIVERSE, and caused the multiverse to shake. 🙄
You are ducking fumb to think they're equal or that collateral damage has anything to do with the obvious power differential. And you're a sad desperate troll to think you can try and argue your way out of this corner you backed yourself into.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What's more powerful, a huge AoE blast that one-shot Thanos or a small handblast that Thanos slaps away?You are ducking fumb to think they're equal or that collateral damage has anything to do with the obvious power differential. And you're a sad desperate troll to think you can try and argue your way out of this corner you backed yourself into.
The COMBINED might of the cosmic hierarchy in one huge AoE blast only laid waste to "several solar systems in the nearby vicinity" of the initial attack. Odin/Seth's "small handblasts" were shaking the multiverse, reigniting dead stars throughout the universe, and shattering GALAXIES. Want a picture? Here you go :
Yet the "small handblasts" caused MORE collateral damage than the entire cosmic hierarchy's combined assault.
Collateral damage isn't the end all be all. You're the one that's "trapped in a corner" with your meaningless metric of power. Thanos beats the "Worthies" asses.
^ This has nothing to do with collateral damage. Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Subsequently, Maker shot small handblasts which Thanos simply slapped away. Which was more powerful? Try and answer that question in your sad little corner if the Galactus-shaped boot up your butt hasn't rendered you completely insensate.
If you can't answer that simple question, answer this question. Which blast was more powerful, Hal's huge blast that one-shotted Krona or Hal's small blast that Krona no-sold:
Let me know when you can compose yourself again to understand the simple difference between huge blasts that one-shot a foe and single handblasts that are easily tanked/defended by that same foe.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ This has nothing to do with collateral damage. Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Subsequently, Maker shot small handblasts which Thanos simply slapped away.
What's the size of the blast have to do with anything? How large was MM's blast that could slag several billion dimensions vs Maker's "large" AoE blast? Or Odin's hand blasts that shook the multiverse and destroyed galaxies? OBVIOUSLY the size was meaningless in terms of their power output.
Yet the smaller blast was more powerful
^ What's a more powerful attack? Maker one-shotting Thanos with a huge AoE blast or Maker shooting small handblasts at Thanos simply slaps away? Which is the more powerful attack?
Obviously you were mentally incapable of figuring out the Hal/Krona query since you couldn't even bring yourself to venture a guess. Let's try again -- giving you the benefit of the doubt that your butt-hurt isn't at defcon 4 rectal dam burst levels now and you're not trying to desperately deflect from the simple truth that is raping you -- which blast was more powerful, Cyclops' huge get-off-my-lawn blast that one-shotted a Sentinel or Cyclops' small pew-pew blast that was easily deflected by the same Sentinel's hand:
Which attack by Cyclops was more powerful? Too tough for you, eh? You can't understand the simple difference between huge powerful blasts that one-shot a foe and single weaker blasts that are easily deflected by that same foe?
No? Have you passed the 2nd grade? Do you have an answer for either of the three questions yet? Do you understand that a huge blast that one-shots a foe is far more powerful than a smaller blast that is easily deflected/no sold by that same foe? Or are you till trying to pretend that throwing out terms like collateral damage have anything to do with something a retarded monkey can figure out?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ What's a more powerful attack? Maker one-shotting Thanos with a huge AoE blast or Maker shooting small handblasts at Thanos simply slaps away? Which is the more powerful attack?Obviously you were mentally incapable of figuring out the Hal/Krona query since you couldn't even bring yourself to venture a guess. Let's try again -- giving you the benefit of the doubt that your butt-hurt isn't at defcon 4 rectal dam burst levels now and you're not trying to desperately deflect from the simple truth that is raping you -- which blast was more powerful, Cyclops' huge get-off-my-lawn blast that one-shotted a Sentinel or Cyclops' small pew-pew blast that was easily deflected by the same Sentinel's hand:
Which attack by Cyclops was more powerful? Too tough for you, eh? You can't understand the simple difference between huge powerful blasts that one-shot a foe and single weaker blasts that are easily deflected by that same foe?
No? Have you passed the 2nd grade? Do you have an answer for either of the three questions yet? Do you understand that a huge blast that one-shots a foe is far more powerful than a smaller blast that is easily deflected/no sold by that same foe? Or are you till trying to pretend that throwing out terms like collateral damage have anything to do with something a retarded monkey can figure out?
What the hell are you talking about. I've already showed you scans that show the size of the blast isn't the end all be all of it's power (same goes for collateral damage). The Maker sucker shot Thanos, then he came back and owned her. Nothing she tried worked and he shut down her mind. You arguing over the size of the blast is just your attempt to take away from his owning of an insane Cube Being. For the record, if it wasn't for the "halo" around Hal's kill shot, the actual "beam" is more or less the same size.
Originally posted by zopzopYou couldn't even answer the Cyclops example? Are you that ducking fumb?
What the hell are you talking about. I've already showed you scans that show the size of the blast isn't the end all be all of it's power (same goes for collateral damage). The Maker sucker shot Thanos, then he came back and owned her. Nothing she tried worked and he shut down her mind. You arguing over the size of the blast is just your attempt to take away from his owning of an insane Cube Being.
1) Cyclops one-shotted the Sentinel with a huge AoE attack. 2) Cyclops shot a small pew-pew blast that was easily deflected by the Sentinel's hand.
And you can't figure out which attack by Cyclops was more powerful?
The insipid deflection you've tried to force onto this discussion is staggering. The anal blood seepage you've displayed on this page is EPIC. You can't even concede the simplest, most uncontroversial point because you refuse to acknowledge that you aren't gaining traction in any of your other positions. So you had to choose THIS one to make your final last stand? You're incapable of telling whether a huge blast that completely one-shots a foe is more powerful than a small blast that's easily defended by that same foe? W.T.F. You've dug yourself a hole so deep that China wants to charge you property tax.
Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Later on, after he recovered, she shot Thanos with a small handblast that he easily slapped away. YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH ATTACK BY MAKER WAS MORE POWERFUL? Because you're "confused" about collateral damage to the environment? I hereby nominate your statements for the 2011 KMC Stupidest Argument Award:
Originally posted by zopzop
What the hell are you talking about. I can't tell if a huge AoE blast that one-shots a character is more powerful than a small handblast that is easily defended by that same character because of... collateral damage to the environment.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You couldn't even answer the Cyclops example? Are you that ducking fumb?1) Cyclops one-shotted the Sentinel with a huge AoE attack. 2) Cyclops shot a small pew-pew blast that was easily deflected by the Sentinel's hand.
And you can't figure out which attack by Cyclops was more powerful?
The insipid deflection you've tried to force onto this discussion is staggering. The anal blood seepage you've displayed on this page is EPIC. You can't even concede the simplest, most uncontroversial point because you refuse to acknowledge that you aren't gaining traction in any of your other positions. So you had to choose THIS one to make your final last stand? W.T.F. You've dug yourself a hole so deep that China wants to charge you property tax.
Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. She then shot Thanos with a small handblast that he easily slapped away. YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH ATTACK BY MAKER WAS MORE POWERFUL? Because you're "confused" about collateral damage to the environment? I hereby nominate your statements for the 2011 KMC Stupidest Argument Award:
The only one who dug a hole was you, by placing your entire argument on the appearance of the size of the blast. And I've already shown you examples of SMALLER blast sizes being MORE powerful than larger ones. The size of the blast isn't the end all be all indicator of it's power.
The Maker sucker shot Thanos and then couldn't replicate the feat when he was ready for her. He deflected and blocked her attacks then beat her down then shut off her mind. It's all right there on panel.
^ Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Later on, after he recovered, she shot Thanos with a small handblast that he easily slapped away. YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH ATTACK BY MAKER WAS MORE POWERFUL? Because you're "confused" about collateral damage to the environment? You're flopping worse than a fish on a boatdeck full of sodomizing shark-men. It's been a long time since I've seen someone try this hard to defend a completely worthless and uncntroversial point. Not the first time, but you've taken the cake for this year, easily. All because of Galactus butthurt that you brought on yourself that's so large that KMC has started orbiting around it. Bravo. I salute your butthurt.
No, wait. Let's try one more. Another chance to redeem yourself. Here's 1) Hulk one-shotting Rulk unconscious with a huge AoE thunderclap, and 2) Hulk throwing a punch that is easily defended by Rulk.
Which attack was more powerful?
Oh, wait! That's right! Collateral damage to the environment confuses you!!! kinda
You keep explaining it before so this is probably how you would explain your complete inability to answer even the Hulk/Rulk question:
Originally posted by zopzophysterical
What the hell are you talking about. I can't tell if a huge AoE thunderclap that one-shots a character is more powerful than a simple punch that is easily defended by that same character because of... collateral damage to the environment.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Later on, after he recovered, she shot Thanos with a small handblast that he easily slapped away. YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH ATTACK BY MAKER WAS MORE POWERFUL? Because you're "confused" about collateral damage to the environment? :
There is NO confusion.
A) I showed you examples of "small" attacks that were more powerful than "larger" attacks, the SIZE of the blast isn't the only indication of it's power.
B) The Maker took Thanos by surprise with her initial assault and when he came prepared, she couldn't down him. He even told her he didn't come looking for a fight, she WANTED to fight and attacked him.
Originally posted by cdtm
A feat being overlooked:Thanos wasted groups of Punishers in one shot each. Surfer had trouble with just one, and had to alter it's programming to defeat it.
Reread the issues.
He took out six punishers. That's 6 herald level beings capable of resisting Silver Surfers best punches and shrugging off his blasts, and he just wiped them out..
Originally posted by zopzopWhich blast was more powerful, 1) Hal's huge blast that one-shotted Krona or 2) Hal's small blast that Krona no-sold:
There is NO confusion.A) I showed you examples of "small" attacks that were more powerful than "larger" attacks, the SIZE of the blast isn't the only indication of it's power.
B) The Maker took Thanos by surprise with her initial assault and when he came prepared, she couldn't down him. He even told her he didn't come looking for a fight, she WANTED to fight and attacked him.
Which blast was more powerful 1) Cyclops' huge get-off-my-lawn blast that one-shotted a Sentinel or 2) Cyclops' small pew-pew blast that was easily deflected by the same Sentinel's hand:
Which attack is more powerful, 1) Hulk one-shotting Rulk unconscious with a huge AoE thunderclap or 2) Hulk throwing a punch that is easily defended by Rulk.
Has the, lulz... "collateral damage to the environment" (LULZ) completely stupified you to the point where you can't tell the difference in power in each of the above examples? You couldn't answer the above questions? Because of collateral damage to the environment?!?!?!
🤣 😆 💃 😂
You can't tell the simple difference between a huge attack that one-shots a character and a small attack that is easily defended by the same character. Mhmm, I'm sure. You're lost. Completely lost. And the hope that your feigned ignorance can somehow deflect from your butthurt? Forget it. Especially not with your nice sig. Your nice avy. Your nice Galactus-shaped boot up your arse. You simply have proven that you're so butthurt, you're willing to offer completely asinine arguments because somehow, arguing stupid relentlessly > conceding a completely uncontroversial non-point.
Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Later on, after he recovered, she shot Thanos with a small handblast that he easily slapped away. FIGURE OUT WHICH ATTACK BY MAKER WAS MORE POWERFUL. Enough with the inane deflections about collateral damage. Or keep up this farce and pretend. Just like I'm sure how you're pretending that collateral damage has hobbled your peanut brain to the point where you can't even figure out whether you've just been completely and UTTERLY embarassed for an entire page or whether you easily won me over.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You can't tell the simple difference between a huge attack that one-shots a character and a small attack that is easily defended by the same character. Mhmm, I'm sure. You're lost. Completely lost. And the hope that your feigned ignorance can somehow deflect from your butthurt? Forget it. Especially not with your nice sig. Your nice avy.Your nice Galactus-shaped boot up your arse.You simply have proven that you're so butthurt, you're willing to offer completely asinine arguments because somehow, arguing stupid relentlessly > conceding a completely uncontroversial non-point.Maker one-shotted Thanos with a huge AoE blast. Later on, after he recovered, she shot Thanos with a small handblast that he easily slapped away. [b]FIGURE OUT WHICH ATTACK BY MAKER WAS MORE POWERFUL.
Enough with the inane deflections about collateral damage. Or keep up this farce and pretend. Just like I'm sure how you're pretending that collateral damage has hobbled your peanut brain to the point where you can't even figure out whether you've just been completely and UTTERLY embarassed for an entire page or whether you easily won me over. [/B]
For the final time, the size of the blast isn't THE indication of it's power and I've showed you scans. So the fact that you keep bringing up the size of the blast is meaningless to me (or the collateral damage).
In replying to (and agreeing with) Kurupt :
Originally posted by zopzop
Collateral damage means nothing. Remember the Pre Retcon MM blast that Beyonder said could slag several thousand dimensions? The apartment it took place in wasn't even singed. 😆Just smile and nod at OneDumbG0, Kurupt. It's what I do now.
I'm not hung up on collateral damage OR the size of the blast. It was you that brought it up :
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You're an idiot if you think the two situations are analogous. Maker's small handblasts in her subsequent fight were weaker because they weren't full unfettered AoE blasts.
They were weaker because they weren't full AoE blasts. Just your opinion, like the fact that the 8 Worthy are Thor level beings. 🙄
^ They were weaker because Maker one-shot Thanos with a huge AoE blast and the smaller handblasts were easily slapped away by Thanos. But I get it, you still can't possibly figure out which attack was more powerful. I'm just being completely subjective. Objectively speaking, between a huge blast that one shots a character unconscious or a small handblast that the same character easily slaps away... there's simply no telling which one was more powerful.
And since collateral damage and size mean nothing, you need more information to figure out which attack was more powerful, right? Like... there's absolutely nothing else other than collateral damage or size that could possibly help you figure out which attack was more powerful: 1) a huge AoE blast that one-shots a character or 2) a small handblast that is easily deflected by that same character. You have no clue, do you?
What a mystery I've woven for you. Gotta be like, Sherlock Downey Jr. to figure this sh1t out. Or, alternatively, you could just be so dumb that you manage to trip over cordless phones.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ They were weaker because Maker one-shot Thanos with a huge AoE blast and the smaller handblasts were easily slapped away by Thanos.
Wow! Can't argue with "logic" like that. I'm sure the fact that she took him unawares the first time had nothing to do with him getting Koed. Or later when he WAS ready for her, he owned her ass. 🙄