Originally posted by Damborgson
not if he decides to use powers that dont include surfboard to the back. If he fights like that then yeah hulk wins.
You would literally have to throw CIS out of the window for Surfer to stand a chance. Once he fly in close like he does 99.9% of the time, the fight is over.
Originally posted by carver9surfers not stupid. He knows that getting to hulk is dangerous. I doubt he forgot his experience against hulk during plant hulk. I dont think surfer would just risk another situation like that.
You would literally have to throw CIS out of the window for Surfer to stand a chance. Once he fly in close like he does 99.9% of the time, the fight is over.
Originally posted by DamborgsonYou getting cheapshotted by Hulk after wiping the floor with Hulk and his warbound? 😆 Nah
surfers not stupid. He knows that getting to hulk is dangerous. I doubt he forgot his experience against hulk during plant hulk. I dont think surfer would just risk another situation like that.
Originally posted by Damborgson
surfers not stupid. He knows that getting to hulk is dangerous. I doubt he forgot his experience against hulk during plant hulk. I dont think surfer would just risk another situation like that.
So how is Surfer winning this? Power drain isn't working because Armageddon already tried this and failed. Hulk has resisted Matter Manipulation on numerous of occasion and I feel pretty much safe to say that his blast isn't dropping Hulk.
I also feel safe to say that Hulk will close the distance and pummel Surfer easily. Hulk will also be emitting energy from his body that could distract Surfer long enough to get in close and beat him to sleep. Once Hulk gets close, Surfer is getting one paneled.
Originally posted by iceman24567😂 no man dont me wrong. Iknow it was a cheap shot. And that a depowered surfer was wipimg the floor with all of them. What I'm saying is surfer would know not get in a melee with hulk.i dont see it as cis for him to start at range.
You getting cheapshotted by Hulk after wiping the floor with Hulk and his warbound? 😆 Nah
Originally posted by carver9when did arm try to power drain him? That's not what happened. He blasted hulk with his own gamma energy. Theres no reason thats points to weaknesses exploitation not working on hulk. Even then I dont see it as a necessary tactic to beat wwh. Just judging btw sentrys energy brought hulk to his knees. I think its safe to say that while the hulk does have.an impressive ability to close a gap the surfer isn't exactly foreign to speeding much less dodging straight line charges. If surfer doesn't want him to hulk will never touch him
So how is Surfer winning this? Power drain isn't working because Armageddon already tried this and failed. Hulk has resisted Matter Manipulation on numerous of occasion and I feel pretty much safe to say that his blast isn't dropping Hulk.I also feel safe to say that Hulk will close the distance and pummel Surfer easily. Hulk will also be emitting energy from his body that could distract Surfer long enough to get in close and beat him to sleep. Once Hulk gets close, Surfer is getting one paneled.
Originally posted by Damborgson
when did arm try to power drain him? That's not what happened. He blasted hulk with his own gamma energy. Theres no reason thats points to weaknesses exploitation not working on hulk. Even then I dont see it as a necessary tactic to beat wwh. Just judging btw sentrys energy brought hulk to his knees. I think its safe to say that while the hulk does have.an impressive ability to close a gap the surfer isn't exactly foreign to speeding much less dodging straight line charges. If surfer doesn't want him to hulk will never touch him
So now you are comparing the Hulk that beat Sentry to the Hulk that foot steps almost sunk a continent? So now you are comparing the Hulk that fought Sentry to the Hulk that after shock destroyed a dimension and melted heralds? Nu-Uh... Hulk admitted he held back during that arc and the Hulk that fought Sentry isn't the dame as the Hulk that destroyed a dimensional barrier with a thunder clap...the Hulk that melted Heralds with energy output...the Hulk that crushed an elite top tier head with his foot...a Hulk that defeated both an amped 1000 times more powerful Armageddon and Wendigo with ease...the Hulk that shed a planet without even touching it.
Even WWH...the one that fought Sentry would pull a majority from Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9uh yeah...its wwh that I'm talking about. Not world breaker. Non world breaker current hulk is the same one during the wwh arc. 😐 he never melted heralds with energy output. when he collided with red she hulk the shock wave killed the windigo and bi beast etc...its impressive but its not like can just go world breaker and start melting heralds by standing to close to them lol. You completely misinterpreted that...despite what you say about the 1000 X amp which is clearly BS to anyone but you apparently...i think its more than obvious that them being stronger than usual is true but this 1000X thing is hyperbole.you over hyped almost every feat you mentioned...do you realize how amped hulk was when he stepped on foom? Not to mention that she rulk did it also and neither of them were holding back since they thought they were in the dark dimension still...shouldn't the planet have busted under such tremendous force from two" low sky fathers"???? Surfer beats hulk.
So now you are comparing the Hulk that beat Sentry to the Hulk that foot steps almost sunk a continent? So now you are comparing the Hulk that fought Sentry to the Hulk that after shock destroyed a dimension and melted heralds? Nu-Uh... Hulk admitted he held back during that arc and the Hulk that fought Sentry isn't the dame as the Hulk that destroyed a dimensional barrier with a thunder clap...the Hulk that melted Heralds with energy output...the Hulk that crushed an elite top tier head with his foot...a Hulk that defeated both an amped 1000 times more powerful Armageddon and Wendigo with ease...the Hulk that shed a planet without even touching it.Even WWH...the one that fought Sentry would pull a majority from Surfer.
Originally posted by Damborgson
uh yeah...its wwh that I'm talking about. Not world breaker. Non world breaker current hulk is the same one during the wwh arc. 😐 he never melted heralds with energy output. when he collided with red she hulk the shock wave killed the windigo and bi beast etc...its impressive but its not like can just go world breaker and start melting heralds by standing to close to them lol. You completely misinterpreted that...despite what you say about the 1000 X amp which is clearly BS to anyone but you apparently...i think its more than obvious that them being stronger than usual is true but this 1000X thing is hyperbole.you over hyped almost every feat you mentioned...do you realize how amped hulk was when he stepped on foom? Not to mention that she rulk did it also and neither of them were holding back since they thought they were in the dark dimension still...shouldn't the planet have busted under such tremendous force from two" low sky fathers"???? Surfer beats hulk.
First thing I want to bring up is Hulk and She Rulk didn't collide with each. Please look at the scan...they were "punching each other... http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901478/Incredible_Hulks_635_003.jpg.html kind of different than what you are assuming or saying. So how much lore powerful was Wendigo ans Armaggedon during their amp since we are ignoring what the writer said? I don't think Warrior madness Thor gets 10 times stronger ...do you? I also don't believe Kurse was 4 times stronger than Thor...it was a slight strength difference. What do you think?
Why didn't the planet explode when Zeus was punching Hulk? Why didn't the island explode when Zeus and Hulk was fighting? Why didn't the room get destroyed that Thanos and PG Thor was fighting in? Why didn't they even create shockwaves when they fought?
WWH would merk Surfer. He doesn't possess the power to drop him and he can't handle too many punches from him either.
By the way, Hulk showed that he can activate World Breaker mode when he want to...read the latest issue again buddy.
Originally posted by carver9
You would literally have to throw CIS out of the window for Surfer to stand a chance. Once he fly in close like he does 99.9% of the time, the fight is over.
That would be fine if what you said is true.
It isn't.
Throwing CIS out the window is EXACTLY what makes him fly close to a guy he knows better than to fly close to.
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In a physical fight, Surfer dies, but I find it hard to believe he'd let it get that far tbh.
Originally posted by carver9The hell? Are you being serious? That is the exact moment in which Hulk and She Rulk collided. The planet and characters broke and died cuz of the first initial hit. Not the punches. DOc strange actually froze time right after that initial hit to talk to Bruce. We wnt over this with superiortech remember? So youve never heard of hyperbole before? Do you think that Thpr can whirl his hammer faster than the speed of thought? Or throw it with the literal power of a thousand exploding suns? And since he pulled off an attack that managed to harm surtur after that it mustve been even more powerful than a thousand exploding suns lol? Kurse proved his strength. When Thor put on the belt of strength the match evened up and then Beyonder amped Kurse again in order to nulify Thor trying to even out the fight. Not just empty words followed by them proving that they are clearly not 1000x more powerful. How you can even begin to believe that is beyond me. oh and as for WM making Thor 10x stronger since it has never been shown on panel that obvious assumption is that he is telling the truth. If he is ever affected by it and then is clearly shown to not be well then it was Bull. Till then though...
First thing I want to bring up is Hulk and She Rulk didn't collide with each. Please look at the scan...they were "punching each other... http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901478/Incredible_Hulks_635_003.jpg.html kind of different than what you are assuming or saying. So how much lore powerful was Wendigo ans Armaggedon during their amp since we are ignoring what the writer said? I don't think Warrior madness Thor gets 10 times stronger ...do you? I also don't believe Kurse was 4 times stronger than Thor...it was a slight strength difference. What do you think?Why didn't the planet explode when Zeus was punching Hulk? Why didn't the island explode when Zeus and Hulk was fighting? Why didn't the room get destroyed that Thanos and PG Thor was fighting in? Why didn't they even create shockwaves when they fought?
WWH would merk Surfer. He doesn't possess the power to drop him and he can't handle too many punches from him either.
By the way, Hulk showed that he can activate World Breaker mode when he want to...read the latest issue again buddy.
😬 dude...you sure change your position quick. You were just saying how hulk and she rulk can destroy planets and heralds by the shock wasves of their punches (which is wrong but you still think its not) but when they are even stronger than ever shown before and let loose a double stomp without holding back I think its more than obvious that they should have cause catastrophic damage. Since while "holding back" he was supposedly about to sink a continent no?
Surfer contains more than enough power to beat WW Hulk.
Prove it. If your right ill admit it but you have overhyped and plain out lied enough to where I need some proof before believing you. Show me the scans.
Originally posted by carver9
First thing I want to bring up is Hulk and She Rulk didn't collide with each. Please look at the scan...they were "punching each other... http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901478/Incredible_Hulks_635_003.jpg.html kind of different than what you are assuming or saying. So how much lore powerful was Wendigo ans Armaggedon during their amp since we are ignoring what the writer said? I don't think Warrior madness Thor gets 10 times stronger ...do you? I also don't believe Kurse was 4 times stronger than Thor...it was a slight strength difference. What do you think?Why didn't the planet explode when Zeus was punching Hulk? Why didn't the island explode when Zeus and Hulk was fighting? Why didn't the room get destroyed that Thanos and PG Thor was fighting in? Why didn't they even create shockwaves when they fought?
WWH would merk Surfer. He doesn't possess the power to drop him and he can't handle too many punches from him either.
By the way, Hulk showed that he can activate World Breaker mode when he want to...read the latest issue again buddy.
WWH is not WBH from current Hulk and nor would he ever go to WB mode here. Hulk had a reason to go WB (betrayal in WWH and the wish in Umar's realm) but not here.
Also, it was the energy that came forth from both Hulk and Red She Hulk that destroyed the planet (not the kinetic energy of them colliding). This is like both Hulk and Red She Hulk blasting the planet by shooting blasts out of their body and not their hands (like Surfer can do). Surfer has destroyed planets with a single blast before and thus has the power to end WWH with blasts if he both wanted to and fought to his best ability (as the forum rules suggest). Also, Surfer putting WWH in a black hole is also an easy option as well.
i have to remind myself that he admitted to (to paraphrase) [purposefully countering the quanchi/carver force with his own idiocy, which actually surpasses their combined bias cause it's completely baseless and he cannot be reasoned with like those two can. a scan of contrary information cannot enlighten nor silence H1]
honestly, phuck that guy
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i have to remind myself that he admitted to (to paraphrase) [purposefully countering the quanchi/carver forcewith his own idiocy, which actually surpasses their combined bias cause it's completely baseless and he cannot be reasoned with like those two can. a scan of contrary information cannot enlighten nor silence H1]honestly, phuck that guy
You must don't know me very well rookie. I have conceded more times than almost anyone here. I have been enlightened many times here. quanchi/carver definitely can't be (at least more than once every 5 years or so).
With that said, the writer clearly showed mega energy coming forth from both before the collision. Also, in the events prior to the collision Hulk was doing great damage with just his gamma energy protruding from his body while just standing around. Thus it is clear that the feat is owed to the fact of the energy coming from both and not the kinetic energy of the collision.
Lastly, it is moot anyway since this is WWH and not WBH nor current WBH. Hulk will never reach WBH level because:
1. He has no reason to (no wish or betrayal here)
2. Surfer could end him well before it happens (this is a forum fight and not a comic one and thus we can go by what a character will do if they fought at their best ability).
Originally posted by psycho gundamCalm down bro. Did he really admit that though 😆
i have to remind myself that he admitted to (to paraphrase) [purposefully countering the quanchi/carver forcewith his own idiocy, which actually surpasses their combined bias cause it's completely baseless and he cannot be reasoned with like those two can. a scan of contrary information cannot enlighten nor silence H1]honestly, phuck that guy
