He isn't powerful enough to take down Banner went he kicks it up a gear or two. Speed is only going to save Norrin for so long before he gets tagged and after that it's Planet Hulk style ground and pound ftw.
Seriously though, Surfer's best tactic is draining Hulk which is not a guaranteed win, power draining tactics have worked on Surfer but failed on the current incarnation of Hulk I wouldn't like to bet on it working here.
Originally posted by cdtm
He could just blast Hulk to death..Fraction underplayed the effects of Surfers power on Thor, imo.. Sort of the same thing that happens every time Superman tanks the Astro Force, except that one time he didn't..
Hhhmmm...you could have a point if it wasn't so obvious that high Herald attacks no longer work on Hulk. Ask Armageddon or Wendigo or Bi-Beast.
Originally posted by cdtm
He could just blast Hulk to death..Fraction underplayed the effects of Surfers power on Thor, imo.. Sort of the same thing that happens every time Superman tanks the Astro Force, except that one time he didn't..
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Why? Surfer isn't killing any high herald who is Thor level with his blasts let alone one as tough as Hulk, he couldn't/can't be put down by Thor or Sentry who have greater power output than Norrin.
Surfer is to Thor, as Infinity Man is to Superman.
It's a rare thing, if not completely unlikely, that a writer will write, or be allowed to write, Thor or Superman being punked by a "peer". But, imo Surfer and Infinity Man both have the raw power to put either Superman or Thor down, given their history and the kind of power they can output...
Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer is to Thor, as Infinity Man is to Superman.It's a rare thing, if not completely unlikely, that a writer will write, or be allowed to write, Thor or Superman being punked by a "peer". But, imo Surfer and Infinity Man both have the raw power to put either Superman or Thor down, given their history and the kind of power they can output...
Originally posted by The Sorrow
I agree that Surfer could beat Thor and vice verse, but when it comes to dealing out the most raw power, Thor would be the go-to guy over Norrin. Surfer wouldn't have fared any better than Sentry did in WWH, he went all out but could only stalemate a Hulk holding back his true power and was no where close to killing him. If Thor or Sentry going all out can't ko a Hulk that's holding back then Norrin has no chance.
The Sentry Hulk took on is different than the one from Siege, though. You have to believe Thor at least could have done as well against Hulk as Sentry did, because Hulk also struggled with elite top tiers like Juggernaut, and got stunned by a surprise hit from Herc.. Yet, Thor couldn't hurt Siege Sentry/Void, at all.
At least, until he went full Void, and than Caps shield lopped his head off... 🙄
Anyways, as Thors output vs Norrins output goes, I agree.. At his peak, Thor is > Surfer at his peak.
But I happen to think if Thor used his energy capabilities to the best of his ability, he could have wiped Hulk out too.. We're talking about someone that could dent Adamantium and damage Celestial armor, and could one shot kill someone as durable as Superman if he stood there and took his best energy attacks..
Originally posted by cdtm
The Sentry Hulk took on is different than the one from Siege, though. You have to believe Thor at least could have done as well against Hulk as Sentry did, because Hulk also struggled with elite top tiers like Juggernaut, and got stunned by a surprise hit from Herc.. Yet, Thor couldn't hurt Siege Sentry/Void, at all.At least, until he went full Void, and than Caps shield lopped his head off... 🙄
Anyways, as Thors output vs Norrins output goes, I agree.. At his peak, Thor is > Surfer at his peak.
But I happen to think if Thor used his energy capabilities to the best of his ability, he could have wiped Hulk out too.. We're talking about someone that could dent Adamantium and damage Celestial armor, and could one shot kill someone as durable as Superman if he stood there and took his best energy attacks..
In character neither Sentry (pre MM), Surfer or Thor are KOing Hulk.