Originally posted by -Pr-
Colossus isn't going to lie about his own bones being broken.
In a straight up fight Kuurth stilll produces runes. So if we assume momentum is all the colossus had he can still push cain into those runes which will destroy him in the end.
His bones were broken but he was healing. He was bleeding (which is stupid if you look at it logically) but he was perfectly fine at the end of the fight. Hulk and Logan bleed and get massive injuries all the time but they still walk away winning most those fights.
Cain head was rolling over. He was getting thrown into buildings and manhandled i dont know how you can miss that. You dont know what type of injuires Cain has because the writer didn't get into his head, without Colossus thoughts would he look like he was losing to you in that fight?
hmmm.. this thread was supposed to be about logic vs feats though...lol
Originally posted by nwg202
In a straight up fight Kuurth stilll produces runes. So if we assume momentum is all the colossus had he can still push cain into those runes which will destroy him in the end.His bones were broken but he was healing. He was bleeding (which is stupid if you look at it logically) but he was perfectly fine at the end of the fight. Hulk and Logan bleed and get massive injuries all the time but they still walk away winning most those fights.
Cain head was rolling over. He was getting thrown into buildings and manhandled i dont know how you can miss that. You dont know what type of injuires Cain has because the writer didn't get into his head, without Colossus thoughts would he look like he was losing to you in that fight?
hmmm.. this thread was supposed to be about logic vs feats though...lol
I haven't read all of Fear Itself, just the X-Men tie-in, so why does he have to produce runes as they fight?
Colossus bleeding is inconsistent, but it's not without precedent.
That's exactly the point though; we don't know how much or how little Cain was being injured. Knocking someone down is one thing, but without knowing whether Cain was badly hurt or not, we can't assume he was as injured as Colossus, who stated on panel that his bones were being broken, and that Cain was stronger and faster.
Indeed lol
Originally posted by -Pr-
I haven't read all of Fear Itself, just the X-Men tie-in, so why does he have to produce runes as they fight?Colossus bleeding is inconsistent, but it's not without precedent.
That's exactly the point though; we don't know how much or how little Cain was being injured. Knocking someone down is one thing, but without knowing whether Cain was badly hurt or not, we can't assume he was as injured as Colossus, who stated on panel that his bones were being broken, and that Cain was stronger and faster.
Indeed lol
wait wait wait, colossus said his bones were being broken? isnt he solid steel when transformed? or at least all his organs and bones turn to steel too.. lots of BS writing these days I tell you..they should have the decency to do a little research before writing shit.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
wait wait wait, colossus said his bones were being broken? isnt he solid steel when transformed? or at least all his organs and bones turn to steel too.. lots of BS writing these days I tell you..they should have the decency to do a little research before writing shit.
Agreed. I wouldn't be so hard on the writers though, there is a ton of reference material and history to go through...It's the editors that need to start shaping up. What are they getting paid for if they can't keep track of a popular character's power set.
Originally posted by nwg202
Agreed. I wouldn't be so hard on the writers though, there is a ton of reference material and history to go through...It's the editors that need to start shaping up. What are they getting paid for if they can't keep track of a popular character's power set.
marvel comes up with their official hand book crap. they should put common stuff like power sets and feats in there for their stupid ass writers to look up. same goes for them lazy ass editors! do some research damn it!
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
wait wait wait, colossus said his bones were being broken? isnt he solid steel when transformed? or at least all his organs and bones turn to steel too.. lots of BS writing these days I tell you..they should have the decency to do a little research before writing shit.
It's some really bad inconsistency with Colossus. They've written him as solid metal, and then just metal with organs that are metal too, and such.
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's some really bad inconsistency with Colossus. They've written him as solid metal, and then just metal with organs that are metal too, and such.
Yup. Exactly, he has so many powers that people forget. He doesn't need to breath, but he needs a space suit in space. he had a resistance to magic but people forget that. He bleeds energy, now he is bleeding blood. It's hard to debate using characters with so many inconsistencies.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I wonder why regular colossus didnt get injured when kuurh punched hi
Not even a scratch and this was full powered Kuruuth. Colossus stated that his skull and bones cracked after being hit by Kuurth hammer. Kuurth hammer was basically unstoppable...Magneto couldn't even stop it and Colossonaut took it head on to the face. Of course he would have felt some damage...he just got hit by an unstoppable hammer.
Originally posted by nwg202
Yup. Exactly, he has so many powers that people forget. He doesn't need to breath, but he needs a space suit in space. he had a resistance to magic but people forget that. He bleeds energy, now he is bleeding blood. It's hard to debate using characters with so many inconsistencies.
Aye. It's yet another reason why I believe comic characters should have bibles handed out to every writer, like in tv shows.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I wonder why regular colossus didnt get injured when kuurh punched hi
if he didn't, it's possible that standard colossus is more durable than colossus-naut sans forcefield/HF.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Aye. It's yet another reason why I believe comic characters should have bibles handed out to every writer, like in tv shows.if he didn't, it's possible that standard colossus is more durable than colossus-naut sans forcefield/HF.
i agree. marvel's hand books is a good start. though they should stop with all the stupid power level ratings. it sucks balls. if they really must have one they should all get together and decide on it rather than letting some random dude guess up some random value.
Originally posted by carver9
Not even a scratch and this was full powered Kuruuth. Colossus stated that his skull and bones cracked after being hit by Kuurth hammer. Kuurth hammer was basically unstoppable...Magneto couldn't even stop it and Colossonaut took it head on to the face. Of course he would have felt some damage...he just got hit by an unstoppable hammer.
And Colossus wanted more! He enjoyed the pain etc. But its odd how his bones could break
Originally posted by DickBlazer
And Colossus wanted more! He enjoyed the pain etc. But its odd how his bones could break
I don't think it actually happens if you ask me. I think Colossus was just talking during the heat of battle. Again, if that was true, that would make normal Colossus>>amped Colossus. Normal Colossus took a pinch head on from Kuruuth and had no broken bone, not even a scratch but we have a more powerful Colossus being injured from a weakened hammer jugs.
Originally posted by carver9
Not even a scratch and this was full powered Kuruuth. Colossus stated that his skull and bones cracked after being hit by Kuurth hammer. Kuurth hammer was basically unstoppable...Magneto couldn't even stop it and Colossonaut took it head on to the face. Of course he would have felt some damage...he just got hit by an unstoppable hammer.
The hammer wasn't unstoppable after Cytorrak took his power away.