Originally posted by Sundipped
Look at the first scan. He had his hands full.
Adam took on more impressive teams imo and the numbers that usually goes up against him is enormous. It really doesnt matter because the people that they are taking on, Black Adam and Prime shouldn't do as well as they did.
Looking at single battles, Black Adam fts are superior. Looking at team battles, I would still give the edge to Adam.
Originally posted by -Pr-Because it's different than ignoring it.
Then why argue about it?
Originally posted by CogitoIt must be factored in with all the other showings as well.
If it were his only showing, or one of only a couple showings he had, then it would indeed be ridiculous to give credence to it....But it's a massively low showing that was forced to occur too quickly and illogically because of the reboot. That's not Prime's fault. It's may or may not even be the writers' fault.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Prime should but not BA. BA is basically</=Supes. Prime has shown to be consistently beyond both.
Who had Prime walked through to make you believe he should be capable of running through high tier beings withotu Adam being unable to do so? Prime got stalemated by a rookie Ion who just received his powers. Prime also had a hard time with Conner as well. His solo fights isn't all that great and a pissed Superman would have gave Prime a hellava fight if it came down to it.
Prime fts involves taking on teams and if that is the reason you think so highly of him then you need to count a lot of other people as well INCLUDING Adam.
Originally posted by carver9
Who had Prime walked through to make you believe he should be capable of running through high tier beings withotu Adam being unable to do so? Prime got stalemated by a rookie Ion who just received his powers. Prime also had a hard time with Conner as well. His solo fights isn't all that great and a pissed Superman would have gave Prime a hellava fight if it came down to it.Prime fts involves taking on teams and if that is the reason you think so highly of him then you need to count a lot of other people as well INCLUDING Adam.
A rookie Ion that had Kryptonian level stats. Conner is the exception, not the rule. He always has been.
Originally posted by carver9
Who had Prime walked through to make you believe he should be capable of running through high tier beings withotu Adam being unable to do so? Prime got stalemated by a rookie Ion who just received his powers. Prime also had a hard time with Conner as well. His solo fights isn't all that great and a pissed Superman would have gave Prime a hellava fight if it came down to it.Prime fts involves taking on teams and if that is the reason you think so highly of him then you need to count a lot of other people as well INCLUDING Adam.
Let me ask you...are you saying BA = Prime? Just the fact that Prime wrecks herald level teams should give you the assumption that any 1 herald would be useless. Not the case aside from WW3 for BA.
Prime ko'ed Earth 2 Supes with hv. A pissed Supes is not going to faze a already pissed Prime. As PR pointed out Conner is the exception but lol at you saying it was a stalemate with Ion. Does this look like a stalemate to you?
Originally posted by Sundipped
Prime ko'ed Earth 2 Supes with hv. A pissed Supes is not going to faze a already pissed Prime. As PR pointed out Conner is the exception but lol at you saying it was a stalemate with Ion. Does this look like a stalemate to you?
Ion was doing great until he got lead poisoning..
Originally posted by Slaanesh
Ion was doing great until he got lead poisoning..
He really wasn't. He was getting his ass kicked before he got a lead pipe shoved up said ass.
Originally posted by h1a8
Any being that can move planets around like toys, can resist universal destroying blasts, can shatter dimensions with punches is FAR BEYOND
Black Adam or any herald level being. This ridiculousness has just got to stop.
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Originally posted by carver9
Prime fts involves taking on teams and if that is the reason you think so highly of him then you need to count a lot of other people as well INCLUDING Adam.
His team fights are ridiculous. Black Adam never fought the likes of dozens of GLs, Supermen, Guardians, Justice Society, etc. all at the same time.
Even if you take out his fights, just take a look at his other feats:
Dimension busting
Tossing planets around the universe
Heat Vision capable of cutting through Superman and GL shields like a hot knife through butter
Flying through 300mile thick GL construct wall
Laughing off attacks from Mordru
Surviving universe busting explosion
etc.
Originally posted by red_turtle
bu bfr anti monitor after anti monitor was hurt and injured thats not a wincanon folder GLs? oh come on who doesnt beat them? i would say black adam was on par with him as far as team trashing, and still the canon folder rule doesnt help prime as he got owned by DC heroes, the flash f amily,black lanterns, and of course teen titans
sodom yat is nothing impressive, to add more he gave prime a fight and some trouble and he just got his powers so he didnt know perfectly how to use them
so basically superman is the strongest one he defeated ?
Given me another example of a character that tears through even "fodder" GLs so easily. By the way, many of those GLs were legit.
Sodam Yat is impressive. Kyle with Ion I'd call Trans. That's Ion tossed in a human body. Start with a Daxamite and things go up fast. Sodam Yat may have been a relative rookie, but he wasn't that fresh. He had already done some impressive stuff with a ring.
90% of the time Prime is defeated by plot devices, not any number of heroes.
^ He was beat by the Earth heroes in Sinestro Corps War before the sun rose. Also beaten by the Flashes after they BFR'ed him to the future in Infinite Crisis.
Originally posted by h1a8But not the Teen Titans. vin
Any being that can move planets around like toys, can resist universal destroying blasts, can shatter dimensions with punches is FAR BEYOND
Black Adam or any herald level being. This ridiculousness has just got to stop.
Originally posted by CogitoAnti-Monitor was hurt, but Prime still flew through pure anti-matter with no problem.
Given me another example of a character that tears through even "fodder" GLs so easily. By the way, many of those GLs were legit.
Sodam Yat is impressive. Kyle with Ion I'd call Trans. That's Ion tossed in a human body. Start with a Daxamite and things go up fast. Sodam Yat may have been a relative rookie, but he wasn't that fresh. He had already done some impressive stuff with a ring.
90% of the time Prime is defeated by plot devices, not any number of heroes.
dude anti monitor was hurt and injured prime surprised him thats not a feat
the GLs were just a canon fodder at this point any villian would do the same as prime doomsday black adam or what ever and those GLs were nobodies anyway
kyle with ION a trans? thats a strech he didnt do anything to be put as trans , i would even say that thor could handle him his ass, as i said before i will say again he just recieven the ION power he didnt know how to use it properly and still he manage to beat up SBP until that plot device that helped prime
Lol 90% of the time prime is defeated by plot device? so basically you are saying that when ever prime is fighting during the night and not during a full sunny day its PIS? you know what it can work both ways i can clame that when ever prime fights during the sunlight its a plot device since IT IS his plot device , besides lets not forget that in all those fights prime had his power suit which maintains the sunlight energy and he still got beat up
tell me something what impressive 1 on 1 fights did he have? he fought conner and he had trouble i would even say they were at the same league
he got humiliated by the flash family , got humiliated by amazo and was scared like some child
the DC heroes owned him big time until the sun rose
superman and supergirl was enough to take him down and make him cry
lets also not forget sodam yat as i pointed out just got his powers and already was causing troubles to prime until the plot device which helped prime
the black lanterns were too much for him to handle like he said if i cant beat you i will join you
and of course how can we not forget the recent teen titans beating him up it was very humiliating
you call all those PIS even with the fact they are the majority? well i will call his other strong feats PIS because he can break reality (with a plot device) and drag planets as much as he wants but when i see fight after fight after fight prime getting stalmeted by heralds and constantly being showed as conner match and league i will just laugh at his few uber feats and thats the real prime a herald
Originally posted by red_turtle
the DC heroes owned him big time until the sun rose
I would take time out to respond to your whole post but I'm sure Cogito will respond back. This stood out however. I'm having trouble trying to see where Prime was "owned big time". Prime was wasting them 1 by 1 untill they damaged his armor.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm not getting into the whole "the fight never ended" argument again. It's semantics and, frankly, it would equally apply to Superman Prime's "wins" also.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Here's what I'm wondering: if Prime was close to being beaten (and I agree, he was, though only because he was running out of power due to having his artificial solar supply destroyed) why didn't the heroes simply grab him back and finish the job?
They couldn't because the sun was rising.
