Originally posted by The Silent HeroWhy does he have to cover his entire body ? The guy was easily blocking arrows and knocking them out of the air with his sword. The only reason his achilles was hit was because of the position of his body with him being completely unaware of the situation.
When was this?It doesn't matter anyway. From 30' Achilles has to close distance and run at him, after flinging his spear futilely of course. He can't cover his entire body with his shield, so he'll probably want to defend his torse/head.
Legolas snipes his ankles and it's all over.
Originally posted by ares834When ?
Gimli actually beats Legolas in the kill count.
Legolas most certainly isn't gonna shoot Achilles in the ankle while Achilles is facing Legolas.
He will block and deflect all arrows shot at him while approaching.
Then Legolas will be forced to use blades where Achilles takes him down.
The problem is Legolas doesn't even get his blades in this fight so it's even easier.
Originally posted by RobtardAchilles can knock arrows out of the air with his sword while looking at the sunset.
Legolas has punched through orc iron(steel?) armor, Achilles' bronze and leather shouldn't pose too much trouble. Not that it matters, Elf can place an arrow just about wherever he wants, while on the move too.
Originally posted by RobtardAchilles is far superior to the cannon fodder even Gimli was mowing down in massive numbers. Achilles is on another level and can throw a spear practically as far as Legolas can shoot an arrow.
Legolas is a far superior archer than any of the Trojans and he can deliver them in rapid-fire while surfing down some steps on a shield. Achilles has little chance here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Achilles can knock arrows out of the air with his sword while looking at the sunset.
Legolas has at least three shots and he never misses, and the distance gets closer with every step Achilles takes so it's harder to "swat arrows".
Can someone point out where in the movie Achilles does this btw??? I don't want to go through the whole movie.
Originally posted by MindsetIt was a glancing blow, an elvish arrow meanwhile would go through like a bullet, I mean they pierce thick Uruk breastplates so what's a strip of metal.
The grieves deflected Hector's sword.It has metal on top of leather.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Achilles is far superior to the cannon fodder even Gimli was mowing down in massive numbers. Achilles is on another level and can throw a spear practically as far as Legolas can shoot an arrow.
LoL, masturbate Achilles some more, it's sad and hilarious.
Legolas(in TTT) shot an Orc off a Warg that was much farther away than Achilles could ever dream of tossing a spear.
Originally posted by The Silent HeroNo, it wasn't a glancing blow, he swung the sword and Achilles blocked it with his grieve.
Look, when the battle starts Achilles will (after tossing his spear) likely raise his shield up and charge. That leaves his legs exposed, unless you can realistically picture him brandishing his blade around his ankles to block arrows, while on the move? Or the other way, equally impractical, he puts his shield low and defends his upper body with a blade. His extremities are exposed here no matter what he does.Legolas has at least three shots and he never misses, and the distance gets closer with every step Achilles takes so it's harder to "swat arrows".
Can someone point out where in the movie Achilles does this btw??? I don't want to go through the whole movie.
It was a glancing blow, an elvish arrow meanwhile would go through like a bullet, I mean they pierce thick Uruk breastplates so what's a strip of metal.
Originally posted by RobtardThat's like saying Bullseye can't hit DareDevil because he can't miss shots. Yet Daredevil saw each shot coming and dodged them good.
Legolas(in TTT) shot an Orc off a Warg that was much farther away than Achilles could ever dream of tossing a spear.
Achilles' shield will ensure the first shot from Legolas misses.
The thrown spear will ensure Legolas must evade before firing his next shot.
By the time Legolas shoots his second arrow, Achilles is already close.
Those arrows are still as fast as as normal arrows. Achilles wins this simply due to Legolas having no close combat capabilities.
Originally posted by The Silent HeroUhm, Legolas taking out mere fodder and you exaggerating him shooting multiple arrows all over his body aren't making it a credible point. Achilles can parry arrows with just his sword. He can also dodge the arrows as he's dodged spears as well.
Look, when the battle starts Achilles will (after tossing his spear) likely raise his shield up and charge. That leaves his legs exposed, unless you can realistically picture him brandishing his blade around his ankles to block arrows, while on the move? Or the other way, equally impractical, he puts his shield low and defends his upper body with a blade. His extremities are exposed here no matter what he does.Legolas has at least three shots and he never misses, and the distance gets closer with every step Achilles takes so it's harder to "swat arrows".
Can someone point out where in the movie Achilles does this btw??? I don't want to go through the whole movie.
It was a glancing blow, an elvish arrow meanwhile would go through like a bullet, I mean they pierce thick Uruk breastplates so what's a strip of metal.
Achilles can block them and Legolas missed hitting Gandalf the white so there goes he never misses argument. Legolas tears through fodder but Achilles makes great warriors look like fodder unlike Legolas.
Post what ? When he knocks an arrow out of the air with his sword ?
Originally posted by RobtardArguing Achilles wins because he does isn't being a fanboy. If I was the only one arguing against a mountain of posters maybe that makes sense but here I am in the majority so let go of your personal rivalry with me due my superiority.
LoL, masturbate Achilles some more, it's sad and hilarious.Legolas(in TTT) shot an Orc off a Warg that was much farther away than Achilles could ever dream of tossing a spear.
I said almost. It shows Achilles strength is far greater than Legolas.
Originally posted by Placidity
If he is running, he isn't shooting arrows.
Really?
Apparently, he can put out 2 arrows per second with pin-point accuracy, while skating down stairs on an infantry shield, as demonstrated in The Two Towers, yet, he can't walk and shoot at the same time? Funny concept.
One needs to understand that Legolas had centuries to practice his skills with a bow and has done so in various battles. Throughout the films, he doesn't even miss once, while delivering shots from virtually impossible positions with likewise unbelieveable accuracy.
Even if Achilles starts this just 30 feets away, he will look like a pincushion, before he can close the distance and even assuming that he is capable somehow making it into close quater combat with Legolas: the Elf has been shown to simple stab enemies with his arrows.
And while Achilles in the movie represents the peak of human combat ability of his time, Legolas abilities in terms of agility and cognition are clearly superhuman. That makes it hard to believe, that, even if Achilles should make it into the infight, he would be able to take down Legolas.
Though, he most likely ends up with arrows through his limbs before he even gets the chance to hit the elf.
Oh. Fun. Logical fallacies for starters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Arguing Achilles wins because he does isn't being a fanboy.
You're right. That would be arguing in circles or a plain use of ipsedixitism. Fortunately, both don't win debates.
If I was the only one arguing against a mountain of posters maybe that makes sense but here I am in the majority
Appeal to majorities don't make sense - hence being another one of those "logical fallacies".
so let go of your personal rivalry with me due my superiority.
The only "superiority" you have demonstrated so far, is your superior ability to summon logical fallacies out of nowhere instead of delivering anything close to a reasonable argument.
I said almost. It shows Achilles strength is far greater than Legolas.
Since we've seen Legolas killing Trolls and freaking Oliphants, I can only wonder, how "greater strenght" would be an issue here. The point is, that Achilles won't make it into melee range and even if he does, it's debateable whether or not he could hit Legolas (agility!) with a spear or a sword, while the elf might either stab him with an arrow or keep shooting in melee combat (both of which he has done before).
Originally posted by quanchi112
@Borbarad-- We aren't saying he misses but his arrows can be blocked. Gandalf did so and quite easily.
I didn't know that Achilles is capable of using magic now... 🙄