Originally posted by BorbaradMagic isn't the only reason he was able to block it he had the reflexes to do so just like Achilles. Achilles accomplishes it in a different manner but has already shown arrow blocking abilities.
I'm not ignoring this. [b]You keep ignoring, that this is entirely irrelevant for a fight between Legolas and Achilles, because:[list]
[*]Achilles is not a magic user and his armor and shield would be useless against Legolas arrows, especially at this distance (ruling out the "blocked arrow"😉
[*]Legolas would have more than split seconds to aim and lose at Achilles and wouldn't need to his his target through a mess of other people (ruling out his non lethal shot against the Uruk).
[/list]So. This "point" of yours is out of the thread, because it does - in no way - apply to the situation which you've created with your starting post.
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We've already seen Legolas fail against a highly skilled opponent and an idiotic grunt running in a straight line so logically the only conclusion is he fails here again.
Says the guy from another country who looks up to me. Save it guy you will never look like me, say witty things like me, gehot girls like me, or debate with the ferocity like me. You ain't me, bropants.
Because you're an individual absolutely devoid of any kind of talent - save for an extreme amount of unjustified arrogance and the most refined inability of grasping logic I've ever seen. Of course, this also has no influence on the thread, but nevermind.Achilles "task" was to win the Troyan war, keep his cousin save, rescue his beloved and survive. Quadruple fail on his side. Does he lose now, based upon something entirely unrelated to the setup of this thread? If you just want to talk characters down, I can play that game, too. And far more effectively than you, given that I actually have an idea what I'm talking about. [/B]
Achilles' cousin caused his own death and Achilles was successful in combat every time he cared about combat. In this thread there is no female to take his attention.
You're attempting to talk up characters and forget they aren't machines and their best feats aren't what happens every time they set foot in a thread. You're point makes no sense. Point quan.
Again you're merely attempting to talk down characters. Achilles refused to participate in the battle in front of the Gates of Troy - thousands died. Horrific showing. Despite this not even be remotely linked to his usual skill in combat, he now fails because of this action. LOLz. Quanchi Style debating is fun.I wonder, where you have seen Gandalf actually fighting the Witch King, which would have been a prerequisite for actually losing. Gandalf just stands there and doesn't do anything to stop the Nazghul, when he has previously demonstrated the ability to - at the very least - drive them off.
And how does this even affect our little debate?[/B]
So you agree this horrific Gandalf showing makes Legolas look even worse since he stood there like an idiot against him but easily stopped Legolas and company.
You can't be this naive. He knew of the Nazgul he knew of Sauron. He wasn't some ignorant schlub who only knew of Sauron yet somehow the Nazgul mystified him. Common sense for the win. I'm right you're wrong. United States 1 Germany 0.
He isn't even able to recognize Sauron, when the latter takes him as prisoner at the beginning of the story but merely assumes that the Dark Lord has returned. And he had to ride to Minas Tirith in order to recognize the One Ring, if I may remind you. Also I don't see, how familiarity with the history of the Ring - which Gandalf had to read again, mind you - constitues intimate knowledge of the power that the Witch King wields. Neither do I see, what this has to do with Legolas VS Achilles - with the exception of the fact, that you again exhibit your ignorance towards the films discussed.[/B]
is shield can block arrows. Legolas fires arrows. Conclusion Legoals' arrows are blocked.
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Even if we would, for a split second, assume that Achilles does really have superhuman strength: What does that have to do with the ability of his shield/armor to withstand arrows? Correct answer: Nothing.
Achilles wields either iron or bronze weapons, as typical for his time. Both completely not capable of blocking an arrow of Legolas, neither is his leather armor. That has nothing to do with Achilles abilities, but is a limitation of his equipment.Blah, blah, blah.
I've already destroyed any argument in that direction, and even if we would assume, you were correct - which you aren't - this still wouldn't save your Greek loverboy.[/B]
We've also seen him fail and this isn't the norm.
I've sited quite much evidence from LotR, which is the work in question here, that Legolas constantly puts arrows through iron armor and shields alike. Watch, think, start crying, stop posting. Even operating with the ridiculous assumption, that Achilles could move his shield in the 0,1 - 0,15 seconds an arrow from Legolas would need to travel from the elf to the Greek hero, in order to deflect the incoming projectile, the arrow would simple pierce the shield, Achilles armor and the body part the elf aimed at.Are you talking about the same guy that - without any need to do so - sends half a dozen of his man into certain death, just to claim the honor to have captured the beach? Are you talking about the same guy, that watches from a hill how rather many Greek warriors get killed in front of Troy, when he could have prevented this from happening easily, just because somebody did insult his pride? Are you talking about the same Achilles that not really curbstomped Hector - who was nothing but an ordinary human?[/B]
Achilles was pissed his men were dying but wasn't attacking Troy it shows how ineffective this massive army can be whereas the boatload he led emerged victorious. Thanks for agreeing with his help this army is a LOT MORE formidable.
Achilles is concerned about the glory of battle and is about revenge. That's called being awesome. Legolas is about flirting with short men. Nope. You're going against both films here and trying to take a few Legolas feats his best and ignoring Achilles'. Unfair. Biased. Not allowed. Will not stand for this in my country.
Achilles is an egocentric moron, who is only concerned with his honor and his lower feelings of revenge. Anything else doesn't matter to him. And despite of his skill, he gets lucky more often in the movie than his actual abilities deciding situations.He would still just shoot right through Achilles shield and armor and watch him die, thanks to your bona fide thread setup.
Sorry. I didn't know you wanted him to have andamantium weapons and armor, because he just dies when he has to work with his regular equipment. [/B]
You can't just use high feats and ignore the rest. That's called showing favoritism.
We see Legolas putting arrows through three layers of iron armor. We see Achilles wielding bronze shields and wearing leather armor. Boom. Achilles dies. That's all that needs to be said.Given that I constantly demonstrated you ignorance towards the LotR movies, even in this very post here, did beat your ridiculous missinterpretations of on screen material to death and overcame every ridiculous claim you made, you're rather arguing based off things you made up or you're simply talking out of your ass. And, yes, of course...you "won" 🙄[/B]
I won. You lost. Tell your german friends I own you. If they want you back they will have to face me in debate combat.
Yeah, whatever.
Given that I held you up to ridicule since my first posting here, without even utilizing my primary language, there is just one person here with no dignity left. Fortunately, you lack the mental faculties necessary to regonize your situation and, therefore, you should be able to live happily ever after. If you want to repeat you already debunked nonsense once again, I'll give you my answer - to every single "point" you may try to get across - just right now:/debate
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