Originally posted by carver9
He does have the best showings. Out of all the Heralds...I would put Thor at the top and not by a small gap either. He still lose to Hulk. With all powers included, I would give Thor a high majority against Gladiator. Too bad his hammer is gone.
Thor has non hammer based feats far superior to anything Gladiator has done.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Do you know who "Superman" is?Also goes by Kal-El, Clark Kent, Big Blue, etc.
Yes, I do. When I see Clark rip Celestial level beings armor, one shot punch Galactus level beings, damage Galactus level beings, kill beings that Juggle planets, defeat beings like Mangog, take on an enraged skyfathet (Odin) and survive his attacks without even fihting back for an entire comic...etc, etc, THEN I would put him at Thors level. Him holding a black hole, him taking on Darkseid, him vibrating, or going through a black hole or holding up a magical book with infinite pages is impressive and all but the comparison to what Thor has done...nope, nope, nope, not even close.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, I do. When I see Clark rip Celestial armor, one shot punch Galactus level beings, damage Galactus level beings, kill beings that Juggle planets, defeat beings like Mangog, take on an enraged skyfathet (Odin) and survive his attacks without even touting back for an entire comic...etc, etc, THEN I would put him at Thors level. Him holding a black hole, him taking on Darkseid, him vibrating, or going through a black hole or holding up a magical book with infinite pages is impressive and all but the comparison to what Thor has done...nope, nope, nope, not even close.
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Originally posted by carver9come on, that's just silly
Yes, I do. When I see Clark rip Celestial level beings armor, one shot punch Galactus level beings, damage Galactus level beings, kill beings that Juggle planets, defeat beings like Mangog, take on an enraged skyfathet (Odin) and survive his attacks without even fihting back for an entire comic...etc, etc, THEN I would put him at Thors level. Him holding a black hole, him taking on Darkseid, him vibrating, or going through a black hole or holding up a magical book with infinite pages is impressive and all but the comparison to what Thor has done...nope, nope, nope, not even close.
Originally posted by carver9
Come on Jake. That's it? Thor has also ripped a hole in Chaos King...fought Surfer, Bill, Warlock, etc, etc, at the same time and came out on top. Stalemated the Collective, the list is insane. Thor is the top dog...deal with it.
Well, I'm not going to hold your hand and read to you all of Superman's feats.
I mean, come the hell on.
Also, Thor's my favorite comic book character and I've a good grasp on where he sits in terms of heralds overall.
Originally posted by carver9
Hold my hand Jake...show me why Thor isn't the man. It doesn't even have to be Superman...use another character if you want.
I don't believe this.
Thor has a laundry list of highly impressive feats. I personally think he's the most powerful herald over all in Marvel.
But this rampant ignorance of Superman and the idea he can't even compete with Thor is....well, it's retarded.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't believe this.Thor has a laundry list of highly impressive feats. I personally think he's the most powerful herald over all in Marvel.
But this rampant ignorance of Superman and the idea he can't even compete with Thor is....well, it's retarded.
Superman and Thor are peers just like Thor, Superman, Gladiator, Black Adam, and Surfer are peers but Thor fts outshines all of them. They could still pull some wins from him though and its debatable on who would get the majority.
Originally posted by carver9Glads shouldnt be included in that list of peers
Superman and Thor are peers just like Thor, Superman, Gladiator, Black Adam, and Surfer are peers but Thor fts outshines all of them. They could still pull some wins from him though and its debatable on who would get the majority.
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, I do. When I see Clark rip Celestial level beings armor, one shot punch Galactus level beings, damage Galactus level beings, kill beings that Juggle planets, defeat beings like Mangog, take on an enraged skyfathet (Odin) and survive his attacks without even fihting back for an entire comic...etc, etc, THEN I would put him at Thors level. Him holding a black hole, him taking on Darkseid, him vibrating, or going through a black hole or holding up a magical book with infinite pages is impressive and all but the comparison to what Thor has done...nope, nope, nope, not even close.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Glads shouldnt be included in that list of peers
he is sort of a peer, in the same way wonder woman and martian manhunter would be considered peers of superman, or terrax would be considered a peer of surfer. ok, kidding on that last one.
it's that niche, that "i can challenge you and give you a tough fight, but you're generally going to beat me more than i'll beat you" kind of thing.
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Thor, Surfer and Superman are the big dogs in the Herald tier, and have been for years. Hulk is starting to look like he belongs up there, but those three, based on feats and the kind of enemies they've taken down, tend to be the top three (ymmv as to who has what position).
Saying Superman doesn't have feats that can contend with Thor is either stupidity, hate, or just blind ignorance, as would it be vice versa.