Originally posted by JakeTheBankStop.
Just stop.
Hahahahahaha... 😂
Name me one ft Rage...one ft from Surfer or Superman that match what Thor has done under "his own power". Don't give me a ft with outside circumstances.
Thor would have held out much longer against Tenebrous and Aegis when Surfer was teamed with Galactus on that dead planet.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I hope so, because the alternative worries me.
I'm not limiting this to only Superman or Surfer... I said "any" Herald. I just consider Thor the best of the crop based off of fts. I have seen fts from basically all of the Heralds and I feel safe in my judgement. It's not that I am saying that every Herald is weak because they fall short of Thor but what I am saying is that Thor is the head honcho. He is leading the pack.
Back in the day there were more DC debaters, and back then I didn't read near as much DC and I learnt a lot from those long exchanges.
Right now, the posters that engage in debates regularly and have the knowledge to back it up -from the top of my head there is Rage, ODG and Srank/BH-, are more versed in Marvel.
This is not to say there are agendas or camps -well, Srank has an agenda, but whatever-, but it affects a bit how our debates are perceived. Marvel is more popular, so DC knowledge becomes scarce these days.
From one Hulk fan to another Carver, I assure you I try to be neutral!
Originally posted by Bentley
Back in the day there were more DC debaters, and back then I didn't read near as much DC and I learnt a lot from those long exchanges.Right now, the posters that engage in debates regularly and have the knowledge to back it up -from the top of my head there is Rage, ODG and Srank/BH-, are more versed in Marvel.
This is not to say there are agendas or camps -well, Srank has an agenda, but whatever-, but it affects a bit how our debates are perceived. Marvel is more popular, so DC knowledge becomes scarce these days.
From one Hulk fan to another Carver, I assure you I try to be neutral!
Not saying that you are a Superman fan but you tend to derail thread with Superman wins or "to bad Superman is more durable" or "Superman is stronger" and Superman isn't even involved in the thread but you still bring him up.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not limiting this to only Superman or Surfer... I said "any" Herald. I just consider Thor the best of the crop based off of fts. I have seen fts from basically all of the Heralds and I feel safe in my judgement. It's not that I am saying that every Herald is weak because they fall short of Thor but what I am saying is that Thor is the head honcho. He is leading the pack.
How does that apply to what I said?
And honestly, I doubt you've seen enough.
High Herald... Able to destroy planets with energy blasts or brute strength, able to obtain speeds FAR beyond light, teleport or enter hyperspace with a sense of direction. Has done these feats ON PANEL. Top 4.... Surfer, Thor, Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill.. All confirmed ALPHA CLASSED...... Characters that have NEVER displayed the strength or energy output to be classed in the above group.... Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Superman etc... Some characters have been around for MANY years and have not one scan proving they can be classed as High Herald.
Originally posted by ENROLLMENT-99
High Herald... Able to destroy planets with energy blasts or brute strength, able to obtain speeds FAR beyond light, teleport or enter hyperspace with a sense of direction. Has done these feats ON PANEL. Top 4.... Surfer, Thor, Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill.. All confirmed ALPHA CLASSED...... Characters that have NEVER displayed the strength or energy output to be classed in the above group.... Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Superman etc... Some characters have been around for MANY years and have not one scan proving they can be classed as High Herald.
Let's not forget Majestros or Majestic if you will, he has feats that match up with your Surfer, Thor, BRB and Gladiator.
Plus if he grabs his sword that daddy gave him he can cut through anything as it was made with material from the creation engine.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Let's not forget Majestros or Majestic if you will, he has feats that match up with your Surfer, Thor, BRB and Gladiator.Plus if he grabs his sword that daddy gave him he can cut through anything as it was made with material from the creation engine.
Changing the chemical composition of Jupiter with his heat vision was insane.. More so than moving a planet, imo.
Originally posted by ENROLLMENT-99
High Herald... Able to destroy planets with energy blasts or brute strength, able to obtain speeds FAR beyond light, teleport or enter hyperspace with a sense of direction. Has done these feats ON PANEL. Top 4.... Surfer, Thor, Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill.. All confirmed ALPHA CLASSED...... Characters that have NEVER displayed the strength or energy output to be classed in the above group.... Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Superman etc... Some characters have been around for MANY years and have not one scan proving they can be classed as High Herald.
[Edit]AH.... Sock, got it.
Originally posted by cdtm
So, do we even know how big that planet was that Gladiator broke?The feat WAS written back when Pluto was classified as a planet..
Even though it was done so far back, in recent comics, Marvel still classify him as a planet crusher. It is something that is still fresh on their minds.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Let's not forget Majestros or Majestic if you will, he has feats that match up with your Surfer, Thor, BRB and Gladiator.Plus if he grabs his sword that daddy gave him he can cut through anything as it was made with material from the creation engine.
I'd actually give him a majority over most of those guys.